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#1 Marcin_gps

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 01:46 PM

We are pleased to announce the availability of new products in the line-up: JPLAY Classic, available for FREE to all existing customers, includes the latest 7.0 revision of JPLAY Driver and JPLAYmini. 
 
JPLAY FEMTO trial includes JPLAY Classic
To all those who ask for JPLAY Classic - if you don't want to upgrade to FEMTO you will receive a FREE license code when JPLAY FEMTO trial expires
 
 
JPLAY FEMTO is a completely new product which features our proprietary UPnP media server software, femtoServer, as well as our own UPnP renderer. JPLAY FEMTO combines unrivalled digital playback algorithms with convenience that has not been available before. 
 
Download NOW fully-functional JPLAY FEMTO and test-drive it for free next 21 days without any obligations!  
 
SPECIAL OFFER for existing JPLAY customers!
 
For a limited time (until end of November 2018) all existing JPLAY customers can upgrade to JPLAY FEMTO for only 49 EUR! (the price for new customers is 149EUR)
 
Please visit this page to purchase the upgrade
(please note your email has to match the one used when buying JPLAY - only verified existing JPLAY customers are eligible for this special offer)
 
If you do not wish to upgrade to JPLAY FEMTO and instead receive JPLAY Classic for free, please send us an email  I want JPLAY Classic. You don’t have to decide now, you can use use JPLAY FEMTO for free for the next 21 days. 
 
For more details please visit this page:
 
Most important facts:
- DAC Link goes up to 1000Hz for both JPLAY Classic & JPLAY FEMTO
- JPLAY Classic includes JPLAYmini and JPLAY Driver updated to latest playback technology
- JPLAY FEMTO does not need MinimServer (although it's compatible), transcoding or Java. Please follow the new manual
- JPLAY FEMTO  supports DSD Native (RAW) playback via ASIO up to DSD256 and DoP up to DSD128. 
- JPLAYStreamer has been discontinued 
- New online activation method, also for free trial version (requires internet connection)
- Changes in EULA: one license is now valid for 2 PCs
 
Regards, 
Marcin

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 01:51 PM

I just bought it without even know what I am buying.  :)  :)  :)


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Posted 31 October 2018 - 01:55 PM

Very disappointed. When I asked, 30 days ago, if we would receive the new version of JPLAY without paying anything, you answered me positively. Now I discovered that I need to pay €49,00. Unfortunately it is difficult to find something as good as, so the solution will be to pay the price. Downloading the test version to check it out. I hope it brings a big gain.


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- Source: Audio-PC is a dedicated computer with an Asrock Q1900-ITX (optimized BIOS), 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM 1333MHz, linear power supply (MK III), Furutech FI-06 ( R) and JCAT USB Card FEMTO. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 Core Mode 64bits with RAMdisk, JPlay FEMTO Alternative version and Audiophile Optimizer v. 2.20. Control-PC is a Core i7-7500U notebook with 16GB Samsung DDR4 RAM 2400MHz, 120GB Kingston SSD and 2TB Samsung HDD. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 GUI Mode 64bits with JPLAY FEMTO Alternative version.

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 01:56 PM

Do I have to uninstall old JPlay first?


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#5 Marcin_gps

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 01:59 PM

Do I have to uninstall old JPlay first?

Yes, but it should be done automatically if you start new FEMTO setup



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Posted 31 October 2018 - 02:00 PM

Very disappointed. When I asked, 30 days ago, if we would receive the new version of JPLAY without paying anything, you answered me positively. Now I discovered that I need to pay €49,00. Unfortunately it is difficult to find something as good as, so the solution will be to pay the price. Downloading the test version to check it out. I hope it brings a big gain.

 

JPLAY Classic which consists of JPLAYmini and JPLAY Driver in 7.0 revision is free.

JPLAY FEMTO is a completely new product. 


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Posted 31 October 2018 - 02:17 PM

Congratulations whole-heartedly! DAC Link up to 1,000Hz - OMG!!!

Questions: I've just begun to enjoy a 3PC setup. I guess JPLAY Classic still applies, but how about JPLAY FEMTO? Can I just dismiss the 3rd PC? My apology if you've already answered in the embedded docs, as I haven't dwnloaded yet.

Without even getting to the download, many thanks for giving us a breakthrough software once again.
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Posted 31 October 2018 - 02:22 PM

I just bought it without even know what I am buying.  :)  :)  :)


I'd do the same.
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Posted 31 October 2018 - 02:23 PM

I'm in! Just purchased JPLAY Femto and have received my product key by email. Just one question on this ... I run a dual PC setup. Can JPLAY be installed on both Control PC and Audio PC using the product key that has been emailed to me?

 

Thanks in anticipation of your prompt response Marcin,

 

@FelipeRolim ... Perhaps there will be a free upgrade for JPLAY Classic. JPLAY Femto is an upgrade so I guess it's legitimate to ask for a new purchase. I'm sure that Marcin will clarify this

 

Update: Just tried to download JPLAY Femto. Norotn Internet Security flasgs it up as not safe. Not a problem. Will disable protection to download.


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Posted 31 October 2018 - 02:25 PM

Now I understand. Thanks Marcin.

 

Some questions: 1) my audio-PC doesn't have an internet connection. Because of it, I'm seeing a message that says that my licence  is expired. Should I connect this computer to the internet? 2) I'm using a dual-PC setup, but the instalation of JPLAY Femto in the audio-PC keeps asking the location of the musics. However, in this computer, I don't have any music. How may I proceed?

 

I just bought the Femto JPLAY too. It means that MinimServer isn't needed anymore?


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- Speakers KEF Reference 203/2 with spikes;

- Integrated amplifier Sunrise V8 MK IV;

- DAC Ayre QB-9 192/24 + Sax Soul Ágata Fuse + Furutech FI-03 ( R);

- Source: Audio-PC is a dedicated computer with an Asrock Q1900-ITX (optimized BIOS), 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM 1333MHz, linear power supply (MK III), Furutech FI-06 ( R) and JCAT USB Card FEMTO. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 Core Mode 64bits with RAMdisk, JPlay FEMTO Alternative version and Audiophile Optimizer v. 2.20. Control-PC is a Core i7-7500U notebook with 16GB Samsung DDR4 RAM 2400MHz, 120GB Kingston SSD and 2TB Samsung HDD. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 GUI Mode 64bits with JPLAY FEMTO Alternative version.

- Cables: Nordost Tyr (speaker), Nordost Valhalla XLR (interconnect), Curious Cable (USB), Nordost Valhalla Power Cable (power distributor), Transparent PowerLink MM² (integrated amp.), Purist Audio Design 20th Anniversary Power Cable (computer), Nordost Valhalla Power Cable (DAC), Kimber Kable 12TC + gold plated connectors (24 way internal power supply cable of the mother board);

- Acessories: Furutech GTX-D (G); Furutech GTX-D ( R) (x2); Sunrise Deep Line (x3); spikes Viablue HS; ebony spikes, carbon fiber bases; Nordost Qv2 (x3); acoustical and electrical reinforcements.


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Posted 31 October 2018 - 02:26 PM

Hi Marcin,

Exciting news.

I just invested in a new second PC with JCat NIC etc.

I didn’t read anything about 2 PC Setup and it’s benefit in your JPLAY FEMTO announcement.

1) Could you confirm, that JPLAY FEMTO works in an existing 2 PC setup with the same improvements comparing to a 1 PC setup.

2) When I use JPLAY 7: does the discontinuation of JPLAY Server has any impact (beside there is no further development) or can I still use JPLAY 7 with the JPLAY Streamer from JPLAY 6.2

Many thanks for your answers
Ben

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 02:29 PM

Now I understand. Thanks Marcin.
 
Some questions: 1) my audio-PC doesn't have an internet connection. Because of it, I'm seeing a message that says that my licence  is expired. Should I connect this computer to the internet? 2) I'm using a dual-PC setup, but the instalation of JPLAY Femto in the audio-PC keeps asking the location of the musics. However, in this computer, I don't have any music. How may I proceed?
 
I just bought the Femto JPLAY too. It means that MinimServer isn't needed anymore?


I have exactly the same scenario as Felipe so will wait to see the response before attempting to load the new software.

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Posted 31 October 2018 - 02:33 PM

How to get key for 21 day trial? It shows LICENSE EXPIRED.



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Posted 31 October 2018 - 02:51 PM

I'm in! Just purchased JPLAY Femto and have received my product key by email. Just one question on this ... I run a dual PC setup. Can JPLAY be installed on both Control PC and Audio PC using the product key that has been emailed to me?

 

Thanks in anticipation of your prompt response Marcin,

 

@FelipeRolim ... Perhaps there will be a free upgrade for JPLAY Classic. JPLAY Femto is an upgrade so I guess it's legitimate to ask for a new purchase. I'm sure that Marcin will clarify this

 

Update: Just tried to download JPLAY Femto. Norotn Internet Security flasgs it up as not safe. Not a problem. Will disable protection to download.

Yes, one key is valid for 2 PCs.

Norton warning is false-positive error. I need to contact them again to whitelist the files. It's safe, no worries!

 

Now I understand. Thanks Marcin.

 

Some questions: 1) my audio-PC doesn't have an internet connection. Because of it, I'm seeing a message that says that my licence  is expired. Should I connect this computer to the internet? 2) I'm using a dual-PC setup, but the instalation of JPLAY Femto in the audio-PC keeps asking the location of the musics. However, in this computer, I don't have any music. How may I proceed?

 

I just bought the Femto JPLAY too. It means that MinimServer isn't needed anymore?

1) You have to connect to internet just for the activation process and then you can disconnect. You will have to connect again in 180 days for re-verification.

2) Just enter any folder. Doesn't have to have any music files

 

Correct, MinimServer isn't needed, but you can still use it if you wish, although it will not sound as good :)

 

Hi Marcin,

Exciting news.

I just invested in a new second PC with JCat NIC etc.

I didn’t read anything about 2 PC Setup and it’s benefit in your JPLAY FEMTO announcement.

1) Could you confirm, that JPLAY FEMTO works in an existing 2 PC setup with the same improvements comparing to a 1 PC setup.

2) When I use JPLAY 7: does the discontinuation of JPLAY Server has any impact (beside there is no further development) or can I still use JPLAY 7 with the JPLAY Streamer from JPLAY 6.2

Many thanks for your answers
Ben

 

1) Yes, JPLAY FEMTO works in dual PC setup too with the same improvements, although I have to admin that single PC sounds extremely good now...

2) You can't use JPLAY Streamer with JPLAY 7.0. JPLAYStreamer was discontinued.

How to get key for 21 day trial? It shows LICENSE EXPIRED.

You don't need a key for 21 day trial. It activates automatically. Please make sure you have internet connection and that you rebooted after installation. 


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Posted 31 October 2018 - 02:52 PM

The 'free' version still incorporates jplay streamer to use with minimserver?

 

edit: You beat me to it.. So, there is effectively no upgrade unless you pay for it.



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Posted 31 October 2018 - 02:53 PM

The 'free' version still incorporates jplay streamer to use with minimserver?

No. JPLAYStreamer is discontinued. JPLAY Classic consists of JPLAY Driver and JPLAYmini as explained in the first post. 



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Posted 31 October 2018 - 02:57 PM

Hello JPLAY team please advise

 

I use JPLAY mini and JPLAY streamer on ControlPC to link my Audio PC, is the new JPLAY FEMTO compatible with Fidelizer and Audiophile Optimizer on server 2016 in core mode?

 

With the new JPLAY FEMTO setup, JPLAY streamer is gone, does the Control PC becomes the server and the Audio PC comes the network renderer with USB attached DAC?

 

Thanks I will try the new configuration JPLAY FEMTO and compare the new configuration not using PLAY streamer.

 

Thanks


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Posted 31 October 2018 - 03:06 PM

Hi,

 

as I'm using Roon on my Roonserver PC under fedora 28, I suppose i don't need Jplay Femto on my Roonbridge Endpoint PC. 

Is there an interest for me to upgrade to FEMTO or should i stay with JPlay Classic?



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Posted 31 October 2018 - 03:07 PM

Hello JPLAY team please advise

 

I use JPLAY mini and JPLAY streamer on ControlPC to link my Audio PC, is the new JPLAY FEMTO compatible with Fidelizer and Audiophile Optimizer on server 2016 in core mode?

 

With the new JPLAY FEMTO setup, JPLAY streamer is gone, does the Control PC becomes the server and the Audio PC comes the network renderer with USB attached DAC?

 

Thanks I will try the new configuration JPLAY FEMTO and compare the new configuration not using PLAY streamer.

 

Thanks

Yes, JPLAY FEMTO is compatible with these apps, it works completely independent. 

Correct: Control PC is music server with JPLAY femtoServer and JPLAY FEMTO renderer, Audio PC is USB Audio Endpoint. In fact you can disable JPLAYfemto service on Audio PC. 



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Posted 31 October 2018 - 03:08 PM

Hi,

 

as I'm using Roon on my Roonserver PC under fedora 28, I suppose i don't need Jplay Femto on my Roonbridge Endpoint PC. 

Is there an interest for me to upgrade to FEMTO or should i stay with JPlay Classic?

If you wish to continue using Roon then JPLAY Classic if for you. However, I'd at least give JPLAY FEMTO a try... 






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