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#1 music dude

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Posted 11 February 2020 - 02:47 PM

Hi

I am using the Tidal via Android bubble up with the follwoing set up:

 

  • Kernel Streaming 
  • dac link 1000
  • USB lower latency  / 64
  • Hiberante mode

 

it sounds amaizing!  :) but.... the problem is that 13 seconds before the next track the the bubbleapp stopps and goes to the next track.

 

why is that?

 

it doesn't happpen when it's not in Hiberante mode.

 

Hiberante mode. sounds amazing ( beside that annoying 13 sec issue)...  how can i fix that?

 

 


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Posted 11 February 2020 - 04:07 PM

Hi music dude,

Have you tried to decrease DAC Link?



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Posted 11 February 2020 - 04:10 PM

Hi

It happens on 5 dac link as well and 100 which I checked..



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Posted 11 February 2020 - 05:30 PM

It is a known limitation if Hibernate mode is enabled. Unofrtunately there is no solution :( 


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Posted 14 February 2020 - 09:36 AM

But.... it works perfectly with mconnect... (-:

Bubble sounds better.



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Posted 14 February 2020 - 04:30 PM

But.... it works perfectly with mconnect... (-:

Bubble sounds better.

Yes, but mconnect downloads a track to a mobile device first and only then the track is sent to JPLAY. 

 

with bubble a track is downloaded directly to the PC. We tried troubleshooting, but didn't find anything :( 


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Posted 16 February 2020 - 07:40 AM

thanks friend.



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Posted 02 March 2020 - 03:00 PM

Could it be a problem of buffer in Bubbleupnp?

 

From time to time I get this kind of problem with Qobuz on my dual PC config.



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Posted 03 March 2020 - 04:41 AM

Could it be a problem of buffer in Bubbleupnp?

 

From time to time I get this kind of problem with Qobuz on my dual PC config.

 

 

there is no buffer in Bubble UPnP, but if you have 'use eventing' ticked, please try disabling it along with the 'battery saving' feature. 


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Posted 03 March 2020 - 09:34 AM

Hi Marcin,

many thanks for your answer. Yes I have disabled "use eventing" and "battery saving".

 

So, perhaps it is because there is no buffer in Bubbleupnp that I encounter this problem from time to time due to my Internet connection via 4G+ Box.

I've noticed that this problem occurs when 4G is not optimal and has higher latency than usual.



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Posted 04 March 2020 - 03:55 PM

Bubble Upnp does not have to buffer, because it's not involved in the playback :) 

 

Only JPLAY FEMTO is.


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Posted 04 March 2020 - 08:22 PM

OK Marcin.

 

I will try to describe my problem with Qobuz streaming more specifically. 

 

From time to time, as I wrote apparently when latency is a little bit high wit my 4G+ Internet connxion, when I'm playing an album, for example, at the end of a track an extract of this track is repeated before playing the next track.

Do you think it is normal?

 

This problem doesn't exist when i'm using Roon with JPLAY classic or Roon + squeeze2upnp + JPLAY FEMTO.

 

It seems not being dependent of DAC Link value.


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Posted 04 March 2020 - 09:22 PM

"when I'm playing an album, for example, at the end of a track an extract of this track is repeated before playing the next track." I experienced the same with Qobuz.
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Posted 05 March 2020 - 06:34 PM

Related but slighty off topic.... I am thinking of buying an Android Tablet to run Bubble upnp. I've never had an Android device, always been iOS. Do I correctly assume Bubble on Android sounds better for most? Tablet recommendations please? Anyone using an Amazon Fire?


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Posted 05 March 2020 - 06:44 PM

Can't help with your first question but I use an old Samsung Galaxy Tab-4 10 inch that works very well.

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Posted 05 March 2020 - 10:28 PM

Related but slighty off topic.... I am thinking of buying an Android Tablet to run Bubble upnp. I've never had an Android device, always been iOS. Do I correctly assume Bubble on Android sounds better for most? Tablet recommendations please? Anyone using an Amazon Fire?


Hi Peter,

It’s worth buying an Android device to run BubbleUPnP. Yes, it sounds better than iOS. Bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab A from Amazon and been happy controlling the music servers. I’ve no experience with Amazon Fire.
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Posted 09 March 2020 - 05:49 PM

Is there any solution for the Tidal or Qobuz streaming problem, 13 sec. before the end with Bubbleupnp in Hibernate Mode?



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Posted 10 March 2020 - 04:19 PM

Is there any solution for the Tidal or Qobuz streaming problem, 13 sec. before the end with Bubbleupnp in Hibernate Mode?

 

Unfortunately not - it's a known limitation :(


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Posted 28 March 2020 - 08:07 AM

Bubble Upnp does not have to buffer, because it's not involved in the playback :)

 

Only JPLAY FEMTO is.

 

 

Bubble Upnp does not have to buffer, because it's not involved in the playback :)

 

Only JPLAY FEMTO is.

Does JPlay FEMTO buffer or cache the tracks (similar to Mini) when using Bubble UPnP ?



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Posted 01 April 2020 - 01:24 AM

Does JPlay FEMTO buffer or cache the tracks (similar to Mini) when using Bubble UPnP ?

 

 

Does JPlay FEMTO buffer or cache the tracks (similar to Mini) when using Bubble UPnP ?

Anyone here know the answer ?

Right now Mini and Euphony sound better than Bubble UPnP here, and I think this may be because JPlay FEMTO does not cache the tracks?






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