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#5301 taxman2

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Posted 25 September 2023 - 06:34 PM

audio pc - 61N, 88L above normal priority

control pc - 88N below normal priority

 

Sounds like a charm.


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Posted 26 September 2023 - 12:14 PM

audio pc - 61N, 88L above normal priority

control pc - 88N below normal priority

 

Sounds like a charm.

 
single pc.
 
es88+es61+es78 last version
 
all lowest level


#5303 Lazz

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Posted 26 September 2023 - 09:10 PM

 

 
single pc.
 
es88+es61+es78 last version
 
all lowest level

 

Sound quality, thoughts?



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Posted 27 September 2023 - 06:32 AM

Sound quality, thoughts?

 

It's difficult to explain because I lack the ability to express it.

 

It sounds good on my audio system



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Posted 27 September 2023 - 04:59 PM

Majiority20230927

The first feeling of the es88b resolution speed seems to have been improved a little, the bass is closer and sharper, the voice is more vivid, and it seems to be closer to the singer

 

The orchestra is more silky

 

After a few minutes, I felt the overall quiet level reach a new level,The music seemed to burst out of the darkness.

 

 

Since the upgrade of es is a kind of halo in style, I once felt that it was perfect enough, so I thought that I did not need to upgrade the power amplifier again, but I was wrong. After listening to the recording of my own equipment alone, I felt perfect, but when I compared the recording of more advanced power amplifier again, I found that their advantages were more fiercely displayed, and there were more extreme aspects that I had not felt before. More enticing to upgrade to kondo/Gryphon Apex..... The current power amplifier is limiting my speaker

 

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Posted 27 September 2023 - 07:36 PM

Single ES88 local is very pleasant, this is my 'Default settings since its release.

FYI i did compare the last version of ES88 with the 'previous' one with HxD64.exe : Binaries are the same. 


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Posted 27 September 2023 - 07:41 PM

I use one ES88 in Local, Network, and NtAuth folder and another instance ES88 launched from desktop (as user)

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Posted 27 September 2023 - 10:25 PM

Thank you for ES88b Oryaaa


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Posted 28 September 2023 - 07:32 AM

I think it is better to use ES 88B alone



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Posted 28 September 2023 - 11:26 AM

Is ES 88 different from ES 88B?



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Posted 28 September 2023 - 12:45 PM

Minor differences.
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Posted 29 September 2023 - 02:52 AM

What is 88B I haven't seen anything labelled B?


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#5313 BernieK

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Posted 29 September 2023 - 03:07 AM

Hi billgr,

 

The same situation as with ES78 in the past. The date changes on the download link. Currently it's 20230927, which is a more recent date than the first release of ES88. That's the only way to know it's a new(?) release. The file is still labelled ExtremeStabilizer88.exe and as Khordo pointed out the binaries are the same for the two ES88s.

 

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Posted 29 September 2023 - 05:54 AM

Thanks for the clarification @Bernie.

 

I also think ES88 is the best yet. Very good all round, very deep and full-toned bass in particular.  


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Posted 01 October 2023 - 02:10 AM

ES88c(?) now available here.


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#5316 darkblood1984

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Posted 01 October 2023 - 05:49 AM

The speed resolution of es88C and B is improved, but the distant sound field like es88A is lost. Maybe the treble ratio is increased, the bass ratio is reduced, or it is some other more responsible situation. Now I try to add Es77N to see if the reduction of bass results in the narrowing of the sound field.


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Posted 01 October 2023 - 09:28 AM

The speed resolution of es88C and B is improved, but the distant sound field like es88A is lost. Maybe the treble ratio is increased, the bass ratio is reduced, or it is some other more responsible situation. Now I try to add Es77N to see if the reduction of bass results in the narrowing of the sound field.

es88A, ec88b, es88C - have the same hash sum. So they are identical.
What are the arguments against?


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Posted 01 October 2023 - 09:36 AM

es88A, ec88b, es88C - have the same hash sum. So they are identical.
What are the arguments against?

Time


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Posted 01 October 2023 - 09:47 AM

Time

Are comparative tests conducted correctly? For example, does every new test come after a system reboot?

I remind you - all three versions are identical.


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Posted 01 October 2023 - 10:46 AM

They just look the same, but the final listening feeling can not be the same, because the packet timing of the file upload timing outside the chain timing is different, and the effect of the things downloaded to our computer will definitely produce a change in the listening feeling.

 

 

I decided to add the es77N to the far field, and the es88C sounds more high-pitched and less low-pitched


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