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#4081 cpasmoi

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Posted 13 December 2022 - 12:46 PM

Hello
 
I would like to have the link to the official website for ExerciseStabilizer?
 
Thank you for your feedback  :)
 
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Posted 13 December 2022 - 02:06 PM

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Posted 14 December 2022 - 12:39 AM

 

Hello
 
I would like to have the link to the official website for ExerciseStabilizer?
 
Thank you for your feedback  :)
 
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Et spécifiquement pour ExerciseStabilizer:

 

https://www.mics.ne....MajiorityClean/

 

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Posted 14 December 2022 - 04:01 PM

Thank you   :P


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Posted 15 December 2022 - 05:44 AM

A friend suggested I try both ES40 and 41 so I gave it a try.

 

40 seems to give a slightly larger, more holographic, atmospheric, presentation but is thinner tonally, vocals are more edgy

41 gives more tonal colour and smoother vocals, but less airy when it matters

 

I tried all the combinations on a chosen set of test tracks and scored them. My personal preferences are (best first):

1) Controlpc: 40 Audiopc: 41

2) Controlpc: 41 Audiopc: 41

3) Controlpc: 40 Audiopc: 40

4) Controlpc: 41 Audiopc: 40

 

This was difficult because what each does best is hard to give up. First place was awarded to the best combination. I'm sure that with a different system, track selection, or taste it'd be easy to swap the places around, especially 2 and 3. My test tracks were spread across mostly pop, rock and modern jazz.  
 

Note, ES40 was always set to below normal cpu priority (which I prefer) and ES41 at default low cpu priority.

 

Has anyone else tried to mix and match?


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Posted 15 December 2022 - 02:20 PM

Thanks Bill for sharing the analysis and findings which appear great. Having been happy with #2, I should try #1 and find out.

Updates: having tried #1, I've decided to stay with #2 - ES 41 on both PCs. Being sensitive and fanatical about vocals, I guess I'm not ready to trade #2's merits for those of #1. Thanks Bill again for the spot on assessments.

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Posted 15 December 2022 - 06:32 PM

A friend suggested I try both ES40 and 41 so I gave it a try.

 

40 seems to give a slightly larger, more holographic, atmospheric, presentation but is thinner tonally, vocals are more edgy

41 gives more tonal colour and smoother vocals, but less airy when it matters

 

I tried all the combinations on a chosen set of test tracks and scored them. My personal preferences are (best first):

1) Controlpc: 40 Audiopc: 41

2) Controlpc: 41 Audiopc: 41

3) Controlpc: 40 Audiopc: 40

4) Controlpc: 41 Audiopc: 40

 

This was difficult because what each does best is hard to give up. First place was awarded to the best combination. I'm sure that with a different system, track selection, or taste it'd be easy to swap the places around, especially 2 and 3. My test tracks were spread across mostly pop, rock and modern jazz.  
 

Note, ES40 was always set to below normal cpu priority (which I prefer) and ES41 at default low cpu priority.

 

Has anyone else tried to mix and match?

 

You beat me to the punch.....I was going to report the results of the very same test which I conducted a few days ago.

I came to the same conclusions, with exactly the same pecking order for the 4 combinations listed!

 

ES 40 on Control PC and ES41 on Audio PC gives the proverbial 'best of both worlds'


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Posted 16 December 2022 - 01:02 AM

That's really amazing for us to be so consistent @Cloclo.

Of course, you should play what rings your bells @Thuan.

 

For completeness I also compared the following combinations against the new reference: 

1) Controlpc 40 + 41 Audiopc 40 + 41 - Atmosphere very good, not as full tonally

2) Controlpc 40 + 41 Audiopc 41 - Atmosphere not as good, very full tonally (too much?)

3) Controlpc 40 Audiopc 40 + 41 - Atmosphere not as good, tonally not as full 

4) Controlpc 41 Audiopc 40 + 41 - Atmosphere ok, tonally ok

 

IMO none of these was as impressive as Controlpc 40 (below average) and Audiopc 41 (low) over a range of tracks.  


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Posted 16 December 2022 - 07:27 AM

 

IMO none of these was as impressive as Controlpc 40 (below average) and Audiopc 41 (low) over a range of tracks.  

 

Thanks for the info! I wasn't able to try out the suggested combo until next Monday!


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Posted 18 December 2022 - 01:43 AM

Hello.

 

Homepage URL changed

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reason:

It was too conspicuous and was used for political purposes.

 

Closed

facebook and Vector download service

reason:

My relatives are voice actors and singers, and they expressed difficulty.

 

Thank you.

 

 Thanks for the update oryaaaaa!


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OS: Windows Server 2019 (Standard Edition) in highly optimized Desktop mode, command prompt shell for initial setup after which mouse disconnected from Single PC, and Control and Audio-PCs run headless (monitor, keyboard and mouse disconnected)
Optimization: Audiophile Optimizer 3.0, ES55 (Multi-User: Network + Local Service) and ES60 (Multi-User: System + Local Service) (both Below normal CPU Priority) on RAM Disk (via TrustedClean 2.0 on RAM Disk) in the Control-PC and Audio-PC. LE50 plus MC288 on RAM Disk (via TrustedClean 1.8 on RAM Disk) in Single PC (Multi-User: Local Service, Above normal CPU Priority), Process Lasso Server Edition 12.0.4.4, additional Windows processes/services stopped via registry editor, task manager and a modified CAD DSK script. For the full optimization procedure see my Guide for Optimizing WS2019 in a Dual or Single PC JPLAY Femto-Based System (revised 27 January 2023): https://drive.google...?usp=share_link

RAM Disk: For an automated RAM Disk creation procedure using ImDisk see my Guide for Creating a RAM Disk that Uses TrustedClean to Run MajiorityClean and LemonadeElitest or ExerciseStabilizer or ExtremeStabilizer (revised 7 November 2022): https://drive.google...?usp=share_link. Modified procedures that run single copies of ExtremeStabilizer 55  (Multi-User: Network + Local Service) plus 59 or 60 (Multi-User: System + Local Service in each instance) on both the Control and Audio-PCs can be downloaded here:https://drive.google...?usp=share_link or here: https://drive.google...?usp=share_link

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Posted 20 December 2022 - 04:53 AM

I see that ES42 has appeared on the Majiority Clean page, but the link is dead as of the time of this post. Did anyone manage to download ES42?


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RAM Disk: For an automated RAM Disk creation procedure using ImDisk see my Guide for Creating a RAM Disk that Uses TrustedClean to Run MajiorityClean and LemonadeElitest or ExerciseStabilizer or ExtremeStabilizer (revised 7 November 2022): https://drive.google...?usp=share_link. Modified procedures that run single copies of ExtremeStabilizer 55  (Multi-User: Network + Local Service) plus 59 or 60 (Multi-User: System + Local Service in each instance) on both the Control and Audio-PCs can be downloaded here:https://drive.google...?usp=share_link or here: https://drive.google...?usp=share_link

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Posted 20 December 2022 - 05:26 AM

動作確認中、非公開

 

FYI - that's shown right before the link in red color, therefore it's more like WIP at the moment since we've gotta wait until everything is ready

 

https://www.deepl.co...ja/en/動作確認中、非公開

Operation is being verified, undisclosed

 

Operation is being confirmed, private

 

Also found on the blog

 

https://www.mics.ne....acts/VoiceBlog/

Rewrite data 4.88 + ES42 + 写真芸術作品 2020 Rev46 Release 動作確認中、非公開

 

 

 

BTW, next release of Bug head Nontallion should support gapless playback as mentioned on the blog.

 

Nontallion、ギャップレス再生対応

https://archive.today/l3E13

 

 

 

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Posted 20 December 2022 - 07:45 AM

Deleted...

 

https://www.mics.ne....Clean/#download

 

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Posted 20 December 2022 - 08:37 AM

https://www.mics.ne....022_1221_11.zip

 

Link to ES 42 is now working and yes, ES 42 is in the package...


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Posted 20 December 2022 - 06:33 PM

Really really like ES 42 on control!

 

BIG step up in SQ!


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Posted 20 December 2022 - 07:47 PM

Really really like ES 42 on control!.....

 

So you're actually still listening to an MC/LE version on audio? Or?....
 
In my opinion, this has not yet been surpassed, although I no longer listen to it. If you ever again AO in the core and only JPlay listens, Hibernate, of course with the new Femto App, you will understand that....
 
 
Also hört Ihr eigentlich immer noch eine MC/LE Version auf dem Audio? Oder?....
 
Die ist einer Meinung nach bisher auch noch nicht übertroffen worden, obwohl ich die nun garnicht mehr höre. Wenn Ihr mal wieder AO im Core und nur JPlay hört, Hibernate, natürlich mit der neuen Femto App, werdet Ihr das verstehen....

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Posted 20 December 2022 - 10:54 PM

Another great ES version. Already.

I've settled on 42 on the controlpc and 41 on the audiopc.

 

This combination is a delight for electric bass and piano bass notes in particular. Rich, tight, and textured. 

Nothing seems lost or diminished. 

 

Great work oryaaaaa!


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Posted 20 December 2022 - 11:09 PM

ギャップレス再生の対応は難しいので、Bug head の更新版は木曜日以降になるかもしれない。

 

FYI - BASS_GAPLESS version 0.1 could be found here if adding support for gapless playback were proven to be difficult

 

https://github.com/a...gapless_0.1.zip

 

README

 

https://github.com/a..._GAPLESS#readme

 

 

 

It's written in C

 

https://github.com/a...er/bass_gapless


https://archive.today/l3E13

 

 

 

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Posted 20 December 2022 - 11:44 PM

ES42 - listen to how the kick drum is separated from the bass guitar; listen to how each instrument/voice is cast in its own layer; listen to the quiet between each note. 

 

ORYA-San, thank you so much. 


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