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[Lazz]

I'm having absolutely no luck. Deleted Fidelizer, still no go, although minority cleaner and sexe is now appearing in task manager, but no ES.

Maybe next step is to delete AO, TC, ES etc', the whole lot and start again. 

[jgwtriode]

It is only 1s and 0s that go through the network cable. No Em field can change them. Or does the 1s get straighter and the 0s rounder?

The other aspect is data loss or data error, but a network filter/cable does not help with that either.

 

 

Sorry to say, but put your money elsewhere..

Well appreciate your concern, but I can easily hear significant differences, so I will trust my ears.  After all the same could be said of the software we are discussing here/hear!    And it also clearly makes a difference.  I am certainly able to after 50 years of playing with audio know what I am capable of hearing and what does in fact make a difference.  Some of the main reasons may not be the 1's and 0's but rather how said cable propagates noise through the system preventing 1's and 0's from correctly arriving. 

 

Most of the discussions I have had with company designers of said cables and filters I buy have primarily discussed how they more effectively deal with that in their latest designs.   

 

Even Blue Jeans, being a basic, fairly non audiophile company has some fascinating things to say about digital cable design.   Their 1700 Belden Cable based 5 se is still the best network cable I have used!   But there is actual science, data and measurement that he will discuss why network cables sound different and what is correct. He also has quite a bit of info on site and white papers explaining why their cable makes a difference empirically!

 

 

Happy listening,

 

jgwtriode

[BernieK]

I'm having absolutely no luck. Deleted Fidelizer, still no go, although minority cleaner and sexe is now appearing in task manager, but no ES.

Maybe next step is to delete AO, TC, ES etc', the whole lot and start again. 

 

Hi Lazz,

 

If you're using TC you don't need sexe. I agree that starting over would be the best way to go, and this time try using TC and not sexe. If you have not yet done so, I would also suggest that you take a look at my ''Guide for Creating a RAM Disk that Uses TrustedClean (TC) to Run MajiorityClean (MC) and LemonadeElitest (LE) or ExerciseStabilzer (ES)''. The link is in my signature.

 

Cheers,

 

Bernie

[Lazz]

Thx Bernie, i will read your guide.

Cheers.

[maxst67]

Hi Lazz,

 

If you're using TC you don't need sexe. I agree that starting over would be the best way to go, and this time try using TC and not sexe. If you have not yet done so, I would also suggest that you take a look at my ''Guide for Creating a RAM Disk that Uses TrustedClean (TC) to Run MajiorityClean (MC) and LemonadeElitest (LE) or ExerciseStabilzer (ES)''. The link is in my signature.

 

Cheers,

 

Bernie

In your Bernie experience, between using Tc + ES + MC +LE (for example) alone or inserting it into the Ram Disk speech, does it bring benefits at the SQ level? thank you

[Lazz]

 

Hello Lazz and welcome to the Forum,

 

To implement the unpacked iso file, right-click on the iso file, left-click on ‘’Mount’’.

 

This will create a new folder labelled “DVD Drive (E:) RWESART_2022_1124_17’’.

 

Left-click on the caret (>) beside that folder to reveal the sub-folder ‘’Rewrite Data 4.84’’.

 

Left-click on that sub-folder to reveal a list of files including ExerciseStabilizer38.exe.

 

Copy that file to a new appropriately named folder (eg, ExerciseStabilizer38) on your C: drive.

 

The best way to install ES38 is to use the TrustedClean 2.0 installer developed by HungeyBear. TC2.0 can be downloaded from the links in post #3909 on page 196 of the ''Pink HQ + Minorityclean'' thread in the Computer Audio Forum here. Note that your virus scanner may detect TC as a false positive so be sure to switch off your virus scanner before downloading TC. The same may be true for MC, LE and ES depending on the versions you download so be careful.

 

Copy the downloaded TrustedClean20.exe to a new appropriately named folder (eg, TrustedClean20) on your C: drive.

 

Left-click on the TrustedClean20.exe and select ‘’Run as administrator. This will install TrustedClean 2.0 on your PC. Choose to install it on the C: drive in the ‘’Program Files’’ folder. See the screen shots in post # 9 in the ‘’installation order AO3, Fidelizer Pro, Minority Clean, Process lasso’’ thread in the Computer Audio Forum here. They will show you what to expect as the program runs.

 

In C:\Program Files\TrustedClean there will be a subfolder designated MCLE.

 

Copy the ExerciseStabilizer38.exe file into MCLE.

 

To have TrustedClean 2.0 install ExerciseStabilizer38 as a service, navigate to MCLE in Explorer, right-click on the bat file ''!Start TrustedClean - after update.bat'', left-click on ''Run as administrator''.

 

This will then run TrustedClean 2.0 again, and you will have to select from the options shown in the screen shots for post #9 in the ‘’installation order AO3, Fidelizer Pro, Minority Clean, Process lasso’’ thread referred to above, but this time ExerciseStabilizer38 will be installed as a service.

 

Installation can be confirmed in Task Manager

 

Hope that helps,

 

Bernie

 

As long as you installed Fidelizer BEFORE the Audiophile Optimizer you should be good to go. If not, and I know it's a pain, I would uninstall Fidelizer, reset the Drivers and Services in AO via the Service Tool, and then reinstall Fidelizer followed by running AO again (because installing Fidelizer AFTER AO restarts some of the services switched off by AO). Installing TrustedClean and then running it can be done after installing Fidelizer and running AO. 

 

 

 

 

 

I have done all the above. But when I run the trusted clean and get a cmd type box it has a countdown to launch i'm guessing, the next screen/options, it just closes and nothing haappens. A lot of head scratching going on. 

[BernieK]

ES39 is now available for Windows and Linux.

 

RWESART_2022_1203_18.zip

[BernieK]

In your Bernie experience, between using Tc + ES + MC +LE (for example) alone or inserting it into the Ram Disk speech, does it bring benefits at the SQ level? thank you

 

Hi maxst67,

 

A number of Forum respondents have reported improved sound quality using a RAM Disk. My experience has been that I heard a noticeable, but not earth shaking, sound quality improvement with the RAM Disk approach using just TC and MC plus LE or ES. Based on a number of posts here, however, the degree of sound quality improvement may depend on what/how much you direct to the RAM Disk. In addition to TC and ES, for example, music files and even the operating system have been assigned to a RAM Disk. Given system-specific effects on sound quality, I think that the best thing to do is try it yourself with your system and see what you think.

 

Cheers,

 

Bernie

[BernieK]

I have done all the above. But when I run the trusted clean and get a cmd type box it has a countdown to launch i'm guessing, the next screen/options, it just closes and nothing haappens. A lot of head scratching going on. 

 

Hi Lazz,

 

Just to keep things clear, the first time that you run TrustedClean you are given a series of installation options to choose from. The options you select set the parameters that TrustedClean will use when it installs ES38.

 

You then copy ES38 to the MCLE subfolder of the TrustedClean folder under Program Files.

 

You then navigate to the MCLE subfolder in Explorer, right-click on the bat file ''!Start TrustedClean - after update.bat'', and left-click on ''Run as administrator'. This starts TrustedClean and opens the cmd/launch box that counts down.

 

During the countdown, TrustedClean installs ES38 as a service using the parameters you specified when you first ran TrustedClean. You will see nothing else, that is expected. But, when the countdown is finished, if you check in Task Manager you will see that Exercise Stabilizer is now listed. The number of instances of Exercise Stabilizer will depend on the Launch Mode you selected when you ran TrustedClean the first time.

 

I just tried this following my directions in your post and it works exactly as I described. So check Task Manager and you should see Exercise Stabilizer there  .

 

Hope that helps,

 

Bernie

[VonBrechts]

Bernie K was faster than me....

 

and the I've posted bulls**t!

[Lazz]

Thx Bernie K, i will try it and check again. Really appreciate your help. 

[darkblood1984]

ES39 sound field is larger, the dynamic is more stable, suitable for listening to classical music

[Lazz]

Well i just installes ES39. Managed to get it to show up in task manager. So far wow, getting a bigger more expansive soundstage, a little bit more delineation between instruments and performers. Sound seems like previously i was sitting 10-15 rows back from stage now i'm up front . Will keep listening and experimenting though. Sometimes first impressions can be misleading. But at the moment, good stuff. Thx.

[VonBrechts]

ES 40 is online...

 

 

https://www.mics.ne....022_1204_20.zip

[darkblood1984]

ES40 Increased speed and resolution,

Now my speakers are 20 cm from the side wall,It doesn't feel loud

Listen to the jazz drum set feel the drum skin around me,Be on the spot

The vocals are very good. The vibrato is very clear

going one step further in the es38 direction

 

https://www.bilibili...eo/BV1J14y1J7zT

 

贵丰万神殿221205 es40

[billgr]

I'll have to try it. Maybe it sounds like MC300/LE62?

ES39 is close.

[billgr]

I like ES40 on both pcs set to below normal priority. It sounds very good and very like MC300/LE62 on this priority on my setup. Maybe a little better/fuller.

 

I discovered that changing up the priority in steps from the default setting (low) gives an increase in tonal fullness and perhaps dynamics (like turning up hue saturation and contact in photoshop).

 

It seemed colourless and a smaller soundstage at "low", just right in "below average" and too full-on above that.

 

It'll take a while for me to become confident in this version, but it is the most interesting I've tried in a while. 

 

Thanks, Orya

[ts8]

Best MC/LE/ES on both of my  Audio/Control (ES40/TC2.0 default setting) RAMDisk OS so far, period!

 

Maybe it is because of today my room temperature is 2 degree lower!

 

Will experience other TC 2.0 settings.

[Khordo]

Installed ES40...Yummy   
Wide Stage, precision & Details are here. Once again, ES raises the bar higher. 
BTW, i did upgrade Powercord & USB cable for my DAC (Replacing stock cables), it's not a game changer of course, by the benefits are here... 
 

[seeteeyou]

I just saw something interesting about Bug head Resampler

 

http://www.mics.ne.jp/~cdorya/

https://www.facebook...900923503273059

 

Personally I'm a fan of PGGB since it made a significant difference after upsampling my favorite tracks to either 705.6kHz or 768kHz. Several sample clips could be downloaded for free

 

https://audiowise-ca...precision-modes

https://audiowise-ca...pggb-p128-clips

https://audiowise-ca...ggb-p128-clip-2

https://audiowise-ca...ggb-p128-clip-3

https://audiowise-ca...ggb-p128-clip-4

 

As always there's a catch with anything related to PGGB, our USB DDCs / DACs better be able to accept at least 768kHz or else it won't do much to demonstrate the full benefits of noise shaping.

 

In addition, DACs with some settings similar to NOS (Non-Oversampling) mode of some sort should be ideal and here are some examples

• Ayre QX-5 Twenty USB2 Upgrade
• Chord DAVE / Hugo 2 / Hugo TT 2 / Mojo / Mojo 2 / Qutest
• Denafrips
• Gustard X26 Pro / R26
• HiBy RS6 / RS8
• Holo Audio
• Musician Audio
• Vinnie Rossi L2 DAC

 

 

Bug head Resampler is totally free while PGGB would require *TONS* of RAM for speedy upsampling, definitely give the former one a try and see if we're getting similar results after comparing that to what PGGB could bring to the table

 

https://antipodes.su...ving-system/361

The latest change was to swap my Chord Hugo TT2 for a Gustard X26pro DAC. Never would I have imagined that a $1500 DAC would beat the pants off a $6000 DAC but in fairness, PGGB deserves a good chunk of the credit for this. The X26pro has a NOS node that does minimal amount of processing so that the benefits of PGGB can be be appreciated.