Of course there is a difference and not a small one on control PC...
JPLAY femto on WS2016/2019 core mode
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, Nov 10 2018 12:07 AM
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Posted 15 December 2018 - 01:31 PM
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Posted 15 December 2018 - 02:10 PM
I've tried all combinations and could not hear a difference between WS 2016 and Ws2012 on control pc. And definitely I am not deaf.
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Posted 15 December 2018 - 06:58 PM
Thanks for the comments everyone. Sounds like I should go for 2019 on both.
Marcin, is there a real gain to be had from "core" on the controlpc with 2019?
Currently my controlpc is 2016 desktop so I can run Jriver for library management purposes. But I could use something else if core is better.
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Posted 16 December 2018 - 09:27 AM
Thanks for the comments everyone. Sounds like I should go for 2019 on both.
Marcin, is there a real gain to be had from "core" on the controlpc with 2019?
Currently my controlpc is 2016 desktop so I can run Jriver for library management purposes. But I could use something else if core is better.
I'd leave Control PC in GUI
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Posted 16 December 2018 - 08:43 PM
I run in dual PC configuration, the Control PC with Windows Server 2019 Desktop experience, the Audio PC with Windows Server 2019 (= Server core in the previous terminology). What I find as the benefit of this configuration is rather from Windows 1809, and not from Windows Server. This means you may be able to get the same sound quality even if you use Windows10 1809,
I also prefer W10 to Server 2016 GUI overall. Although server wins in some areas of sound quality (has a blacker background and sense of ease), it also has a bit too much warmth/bloom around the midrange frequencies that I find distracting. W10 seems a bit leaner/sharper, at least through my rather warm-sounding active monitors.
Would you have any recommendations for which W10 services to disable? Have you tried the AO Windows 10 optimisations in service tool and would you advise doing that?
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Posted 25 December 2018 - 02:18 PM
I have been running JPLAYfemto on WS2019 Core mode for both AudioPC and ControlPC for a while. They have got really stabilised especially since 7d.
It is more tricky with AudioPC on Core to make KS work well while ControlPC is more straight forward - before 7c I had more struggled with ControlPC, though.
I don’t see the point why you don’t try WS2019 Core on ControlPC as well if you can do on AudioPC.
My ControlPC is set up in dual-boot with WS2019 Core and GUI. I use GUI for managing the music library and Core for listening.
It is more tricky with AudioPC on Core to make KS work well while ControlPC is more straight forward - before 7c I had more struggled with ControlPC, though.
I don’t see the point why you don’t try WS2019 Core on ControlPC as well if you can do on AudioPC.
My ControlPC is set up in dual-boot with WS2019 Core and GUI. I use GUI for managing the music library and Core for listening.
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AudioPC: WS2019 Standard, Core i7 7700T, JCAT Femto USB, JCAT Femto NIC, 32GB SATA DOM, HDPLEX 200LPS
ControlPC: WS2019 Standard, Core i7 7700T, JCAT Femto NIC, 32GB SATA DOM, Seagate ST2000LX001 2TB, HDPLEX 200LPS
Controlpoint: Bubble UPnP, Huawei MediaPad M5 Lite
DAC: EMM DAC2XV2, Chord DAVE + M-Scaler
ControlPC: WS2019 Standard, Core i7 7700T, JCAT Femto NIC, 32GB SATA DOM, Seagate ST2000LX001 2TB, HDPLEX 200LPS
Controlpoint: Bubble UPnP, Huawei MediaPad M5 Lite
DAC: EMM DAC2XV2, Chord DAVE + M-Scaler
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Posted 26 December 2018 - 09:52 AM
I am still waiting for Audiophil to release a compatible version in January. I've noticed that there are too many processes running in WS 2019. I think it will be worth waiting.
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Posted 26 December 2018 - 03:47 PM
These are processes running on my AudioPC.
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Posted 26 December 2018 - 04:59 PM
I've got 14 processes plus JPlay, Fidelizer and Process Lasso on my audio pc WS2016 core. I don't use the killer scripts.
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Posted 27 December 2018 - 05:36 AM
With AO and the CAD scripts I've got 9 services and 15 processes (plus JPLAY and Process Lasso) running on my Audio-PC with WS2016 in Virtual Core Mode.
Control Point: Apple iPad (9th gen), 64Gb storage, 3Gb RAM, JPLAY for iOS 1.0.18; Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite, 128Gb storage, 4Gb RAM, Bubble UPnP 4.3.6; Dell Inspiron 15 5510 laptop (Windows 11 Professional (x64) Version 22H2 (build 22621.3155), Intel Core i7-11390H, 2.93 GHz, 512Gb KIOXIA M2 PCIe NVMe (RAID) SSD, 16Gb DDR4 3200 MHz RAM), Upplay 1.7.1.
Control and Audio-PCs: Asus Mini PC PN60, Intel Core i5 8250U 1.6 GHz, 250Gb Kingston A2000 M2 NVMe SSD and 8Gb DDR4 2400 MHz RAM.
OS: Windows Server 2019 (Standard Edition) in highly optimized Desktop mode, command prompt shell for initial setup after which Control and Audio-PCs run headless (monitor, keyboard and mouse disconnected).
Optimization: Audiophile Optimizer 3.0, MajiorityCamisole 170 and 171 via TrustedClean 3.1b-server on RAM Disk in Audio PC (Local folder) (RAM Disk procedure and TC settings used are detailed in this guide - 8 Nov 2023), Process Lasso Server Edition 14.0.2.12, additional Windows processes/services stopped via registry editor, task manager and a modified CAD DSK script. For the full optimization procedure see my Guide for Optimizing WS2019 in a Dual or Single PC JPLAY Femto-Based System (revised 5 July 2023).
Renderer: JPLAY FEMTO 7.0D UPnP (Alternative version), Server: JPLAY FEMTO 7.0D femtoServer, File Manager: Q-Dir 11.5.5.0, Library Manager: JRiver MC 32.0.6.
JPLAY Settings: Playing via: KS, Engine: ULTRAstream, Bitstream: Native, Bitperfect Volume: OFF, DAC Link: 1000, XtreamSize: 1000, Throttle: ON, Hibernate Mode: ON.
Equipment Configuration: Control Point Tablet/Laptop > WiFi > Control-PC > 1m SUPRA Cat 8 Ethernet Cable > Audio-PC > 3m Chord C-USB Cable > Rotel 1590C > 2m Mogami NEGLEX RCA to XLR cable with Neutrik connectors) > March Audio P501 Monoblocks with Purifi 1ET7040SA modules > DIY speaker cables (Tycab PVC doubly insulated 11 AWG OFC wire, TechFlex braid, Neotech Banana/Spade connectors) > Bryston PX-1 external crossovers > DIY speaker cables (as before) > Bryston Model T Signature Speakers. AC power filtered/cleaned via Thor A12BF Smart Power Board.
Music Storage: Main Library: 6Tb Seagate HDD/Hub+6Tb Seagate HDD (all connections via 0.5m Avencore Premium USB 3.0 cables); Backups (x2): as per Main Library.
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Posted 27 December 2018 - 09:11 AM
What I was trying to say is that WS2019 is more complicated than WS2016 and runs more processes than usual. I will leave it to the professionals such as Audiophil. Once AO is updated, I will go for it.
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Posted 27 January 2019 - 09:15 AM
Is in Windows Server 2019 Core with AO3 beta there no KS(kernel streaming) possible at the moment ?
I could not run it personally
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Posted 27 January 2019 - 10:14 AM
Of course there is. Run AO3 Beta and say yes to install media player support.
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Posted 27 January 2019 - 11:02 AM
Of course there is. Run AO3 Beta and say yes to install media player support.
Thanks
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Posted 27 January 2019 - 02:14 PM
Of course there is. Run AO3 Beta and say yes to install media player support.
Which one should I install first?
I run AO3 Beta and say yes to install media player support.
I'm using micro idsd black label as dac, I'm installing the driver first.
Then I'm uploading Jplayfemto.
I shut down the computer and open the jplay settings panel unfortunately always looks asio
please help me what i need to do
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