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#61 madfloyd

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 05:45 PM

I'm wondering if someone can recommend a LPS.   I have received my card but as it really needs an external power supply and I cannot find one, it's not going to be much use to me.  I have searched for LPS 5V/2A and haven't found anything that seems to be a complete product (most things I find appear to be circuit boards).

 

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 07:39 AM

I'm wondering if someone can recommend a LPS.   I have received my card but as it really needs an external power supply and I cannot find one, it's not going to be much use to me.  I have searched for LPS 5V/2A and haven't found anything that seems to be a complete product (most things I find appear to be circuit boards).

 

Thanks in advance!

200W Linear Power Supply

 

There are cheaper alternatives too on ebay. It can be more than 2A. It's ok. 


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Posted 06 September 2017 - 10:51 AM

Hi there,

 

Here comes a short report from my experience with the new network card.

 

I'm very happy with the sound of the JCAT NET card. I expected listening to streamed internet radio would benefit most but I discovered that listening to wav-files from the SSD using JPLAY Streamer sounded better than HYSOLID which was a big surprise ;-)
 
Both USB Femto and NET card Femto are powered with the 200W linear power supply and I have the most natural and musical sound ever.
 
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Posted 06 September 2017 - 11:21 AM

Thanks for the report! :)

It's fascinating that the sound benefits so much even for files stored locally in singlePC mode. JPLAY uses network internally, but still, I did not expect such an improvement in single PC configuration. 

 

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 11:25 AM

Here is a report from a customer that might be helpful to anyone who'd like to use the card, but his PC does not have a PCIe slot, only Mini PCI-E:

 

I received my card today and had zero issues connecting it to my mini-itx system.

Since my mini-itx doesn’t have a pcie slot, I had to purchase one of these ($17.75 + shipping USD):

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:22 PM

Hi Marcin long time no see. I'm also thinking of getting a femto but have a few questions:
1. when's the second batch due?
2. my configuration is tidal->controlpc->audiopc->jkeny hiface 2-> Weiss Dac 2. should I be using a network bridge instead of going through a router?
3. will femto card prevent network disconnects?
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:22 PM

Hi! 

 

Ineed, it's been a while :)

1. End of October, but I still have 3 cards left from the first batch ready to go ;)

2. Yes, I think for TIdal, bridging is best choice. In my dualPC setup I prefer using only one port on the card in each PC and disabling the 2nd one. But my music library is storred locally, directly on controlpc. For music library in the cloud (streaming services) or on a NAS, I'd recommend bridging. 

3. Not sure I understand the question? I haven't had a single disconnect for months, but it was also the case when I used integrated ethernet. 

 

Please let me know if you have any further questions. 

 

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#68 easternlethal

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 11:05 PM

Thanks! Yes I'm not too familar with integrating ethernets.
Basically I use my controlpc to stream from tidal.
So I understand that I'll need a second network adaptor in the control pc right?
1. original onboard NIC connects to router
2. FEMTO in control PC connected directly with audiopc
Am I right?
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Posted 15 September 2017 - 09:15 AM

Not necessairly. Some customers say that using both ports on the card (one for network, one for streamer/audiopc) sounds better. Best to check what you prefer in your setup

 

BTW - sound quality will gain also for local files, not just Tidal :)

 

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 06:45 PM

2. Yes, I think for TIdal, bridging is best choice. In my dualPC setup I prefer using only one port on the card in each PC and disabling the 2nd one. But my music library is storred locally, directly on controlpc. For music library in the cloud (streaming services) or on a NAS, I'd recommend bridging. 
 
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Marcin,

I am a bit puzzled by this as I would assume that network bridging makes even more sense when the music library is stored locally given that a noisy switch is not requied to access files stored on a NAS, etc.?

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 06:49 PM

my music library is storred locally, directly on controlpc
 

Marcin, are you storing your music files on a HDD on control pc?



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Posted 18 September 2017 - 09:21 AM

Marcin,

I am a bit puzzled by this as I would assume that network bridging makes even more sense when the music library is stored locally given that a noisy switch is not requied to access files stored on a NAS, etc.?

You are right. I'm simply stating facts that using just a single port in my system is better than using both simultanously. But I don't use NAS. 

I recommend trying both options:

- bridge 1x onboard port for home network and 1x JCAT NET port for streamer.  

- bridge 2x JCAT NET ports for home network and streamer. 

 

Marcin, are you storing your music files on a HDD on control pc?

Yes.


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Posted 18 September 2017 - 12:07 PM

In case anyone wonders how JCAT NET card affects playback in an Audio over IP system (Rednet), here's the feedback: https://www.head-fi....5#post-13729744


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 07:06 PM

I have been using my Net Card for 2 days now in my Zuma server, and I am impressed big time. The noise floor dropped, the musical line became more fluid and full, the soundstage enlarged. I followed Marcin's setup guide, and all those qualities were enhanced even more. I play files locally from the Zuma through the LAN to my Bricasti M12 DAC --- it has a network card, so there is no USB conversion anywhere the playback. 

 

I highly recommend this product for anyone with a network based playback configuration.


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:14 AM

Thank you David for your awesome review! :)

I posted on CA forum that you'd get a nice improvement if you could install the card directly in the PCIe slot, but I understand it may not be possible to skip PCIe riser cable in your setup

 

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#76 advieira

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Posted 18 October 2017 - 09:24 PM

Is there some review?

What are the dimensions (I need to know if height will fit in my case)?

 

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Posted 18 October 2017 - 09:26 PM

Another question: HD plex 200w can power both Mini-itx Motherboard and Jcat Net Card together?



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Posted 19 October 2017 - 08:19 AM

Is there some review?

What are the dimensions (I need to know if height will fit in my case)?

 

Thanks

There is no formal review yet, only feedback from customers. (you can see the comments in this thread). The first professional review will be in SoundStage magazine. 

The height is 5cm. There are both low-profile and full-size PCIe brackets included with the card. 

 

Another question: HD plex 200w can power both Mini-itx Motherboard and Jcat Net Card together?

Yes. I assume Mini-itx needs 12V or 19V. Then you can use 5V rail for the JCAT NET card. 

 

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

 

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#79 advieira

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 05:10 PM

Marcin,

could you recommend a chassis small enough to fit it?

or, is there some Intel Nuc with a PCie free which can fit it?



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Posted 20 October 2017 - 10:07 AM

Marcin,

could you recommend a chassis small enough to fit it?

or, is there some Intel Nuc with a PCie free which can fit it?

Are you going to use it with NUC? I suppose you saw this article: http://www.virten.ne...her-pcie-cards/ ?

 

There are no NUC enclosures with PCIe slots as far as I know. You'd need to use a DIY solution or utilize sth like this which is quite expensive: https://www.akitio.c...nder2-pcie-box 

 

Alternatively you may search for similar enclosure on alibaba / ebay. 

 

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