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#41 Marcin_gps

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 06:35 AM

According to UPS my card is scheduled for delivery today! :)

 

How is the work on the guide progressing?

 

Would be great to have as a reference when installing,/configuring.

Will be finished next week. For now, this should do: http://files.jplay.e...quick_start.pdf:)

 

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 05:45 PM

Well, unfortunately the delivery was a no show. :(

 

Looking at the detailed status of the delivery on the UPS site it now shows the package as just being received by UPS in Poland at 18:00 today.

 

Sounds like it will take a couple more days before arriving here in Germany. 

I also wait it in Germany, mine will come on Tuesday :)


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Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:01 PM

Mine seems to be just leaving Poland. Apparently they are going to row it across the Atlantic. 



#44 Marcin_gps

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:12 PM

EU orders should be delivered by now for most customers. I know some people are burning in the cards already :)



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Posted 24 August 2017 - 01:34 PM

Not only burning! TIDAL now sounds close to tracks played from HD. 

Thanks, Marcin! 


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Posted 24 August 2017 - 03:20 PM

Not only burning! TIDAL now sounds close to tracks played from HD. 

Thanks, Marcin! 

Good to hear! :) Enjoy!



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Posted 25 August 2017 - 01:27 PM

Well the card finally arrived and I managed to put it through a couple of initial tests yesterday. :)

 

The packaging and overall build quality of the card is very good. It has a solid feel to it and certainly does not convey the impression of a low cost / mass production piece of electronics.

 

I am using the card in an intel driven Win10 Roon / HQPlayer PC, powered by an HDPlex PSU. The remainder of the signal chain consists of a Sonore MicroRendu (first generation) > Lush USB Cable >  Mutec MC-3+ USB > Trinnov ST-2 > Devialet 250 Pro.

 

My preferred connection method between the Network Card and mR is a direct Ethernet Cat 7 cable connection via a windows network bridge across both ports of the JCAT.  This was a bit of challenge given the nature of the MR and its need for a DHCP assigned IP address. Needless to say, if one follows the right sequence, it can be achieved, but can be somewhat tedious. Would definitely be beneficial if the JCAT crew could put together some additional documentation in this regard. ;)

 

So what about the SQ? Honestly, my system has never sounded better. Although I would not categorize the level of improvement as substantial, it is significant. Imaging, timing and transparency clearly benefit from the card in my system.  

 

A thumbs up product in my opinion.


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#48 Marcin_gps

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 03:29 PM

Thanks for the report. Burn-in and proper adjustments will improve things quite a bit. I haven't finished the full guide yet. All customers who purchased the JCAT NET Card FEMTO will receive it via email. 

Regarding setup with streamers such as mR or sms-200, I will get demo units and prepare step-by-step manuals myself. 

 

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 01:27 PM

I wrote a detailed guide that I think will help everyone enjoy the product even more. 

The article is not publicly available - it's a free bonus for everyone who purchased the card. Everyone who purchased the JCAT NET Card FEMTO should have received the link to the article via email already. If not then please shout :)



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Posted 29 August 2017 - 02:19 PM

Marcin, is it possible to get this kind of instruction for linux PC? :)



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Posted 29 August 2017 - 03:10 PM

Marcin, is it possible to get this kind of instruction for linux PC? :)

 

To be honest, my experience with computer audio on linux is limited. It may change in the future, but right now I'm afraid I can't make similar guide for linux. What I can recommend is search for the parameters I described and a way to adjust them on linux. I'm sure not all are available, but some should be adjustable on linux too...  



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Posted 29 August 2017 - 03:21 PM

Marcin, I ordered 2 cards through High End PC / AO and did not receive a manual.

https://www.highend-...-net-card-femto

 

I still haven't received my 2 cards either.........just cleared U S Customs in NY. This is taking a long time.


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Pachanko lan cables & PPA ethernet switch between pcs > Jcat Femto usb card >  iFi Gemini 3.0 cable > iFi Igalvanic3.0 > Pachanko RUR link > iFi Micro iusb 3.0 reclocker > iFi mercury 3.0 cable  > Singxer SU1 i2s > Wireworld Silver HDMI cable > Wyred 4 Sound DAC-2V2 DSDse >

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***Audio system  powered by two Equi=Core 300 balanced power sources with Ice Age Audio and Pachanko power cords.

Also use  Pachanko Reference SATA cables.


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Posted 30 August 2017 - 07:05 AM

Marcin, I ordered 2 cards through High End PC / AO and did not receive a manual.

https://www.highend-...-net-card-femto

 

I still haven't received my 2 cards either.........just cleared U S Customs in NY. This is taking a long time.

 

Manual is included in the box. As to the article, please check you PM :) 

I haven't sent it to you as I did not receive your email, only your address for shipping. 

 

Best regards,
Marcin



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Posted 02 September 2017 - 10:57 AM

Hi,

 

Now I have began to use and I have placed the NET card in ControlPC because I don’t have a free PCIe slot in audioPC. Compared to before it became a clear improvement :) And again one more step better after having trimmed settings according to Marcin's manual. Thank you very much for that :)  I power the NET Card with an external LiFePO4 battery together with an ultra low noise and transient fast regulator, a clear improvement over all other power sources I have. If you have invested in this extremely good NET card so also use a really good separate power source only for the card is my advice :) 

 

best regards

Tomas


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AudioPC: Intel S1200V3RPS, Intel Xeon E3-1230LV3, Apacer AP2GITETLQ1K3 2GB DDR3 1066 ECC DIMM,

SATA to CF Adapter with Apacer AP-CF016GRANS-ETNRC, JCAT USB Card Femto,
JCAT Reference SATA Cable, JCAT Net Card Femto

ControlPC: Intel S1200KPR, Intel Xeon E3-1265L V2, Apacer 75.A83EE.G000C 2GB DDR3 1066 ECC DIMM,

SATA to CF Adapter with Apacer AP-CF016GRANS-ETNRC (for Windows), SATA to CF Adapter with Apacer AP-CF016GRAFS-NR (for WAV-files),

JCAT Reference SATA Cable, JCAT Net Card Femto, JCAT Signature LAN Cable

Software: Windows Server 2016 Standard, Total Commander 9.21a, JPLAY 7 Femto, Audiophile Optimizer 2.20, Upplay 1.3.0

Audio equipment: JCAT Reference USB Cable, Harmony Design Pre 906, Moon Audio Silver Dragon V3 with Furutech Rhodium XLR, Sennheiser HD800


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Posted 02 September 2017 - 02:32 PM

Hi Marcin,
I tested card with LPS-1, whick produces max 1.2A. At one moment led on Lps-1 became red (capacitors not charged) and changed to green. So i think that at some moment card ate more than 1.2A. So i have doubts if the card just switched to internal motherboard power. Is that possible, that card can get power from motherboard and at the same time from external psu, if it doesnt provide enough power/current. Or card switches on external psu if it connected and only use its power and ignore motherboard even when external psu is too weak for card?

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Posted 02 September 2017 - 06:59 PM

I power the NET Card with an external LiFePO4 battery together with an ultra low noise and transient fast regulator
 
Hi, can you share which one they are? Thanks


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Posted 02 September 2017 - 08:41 PM

+1. Please share which source you got this external battery and fast regulator from. I may need two sets for my dual PC setup. Thank you Tomas.
Dual PC, WS2019 Standard, JPLAY Femto, KS/UltraStream, Hi-Fi Cast/BubbleUPnP.

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Posted 02 September 2017 - 10:05 PM

 

 
Hi, can you share which one they are? Thanks

 

 

 

+1. Please share which source you got this external battery and fast regulator from. I may need two sets for my dual PC setup. Thank you Tomas.

 

I use two of these cells in series, and the regulator is LT1764. Just DIY in other words.

 

The well-known Audiowind A-270 is also fine with either LT1963 or LT1764 and an appropriate battery.


AudioPC: Intel S1200V3RPS, Intel Xeon E3-1230LV3, Apacer AP2GITETLQ1K3 2GB DDR3 1066 ECC DIMM,

SATA to CF Adapter with Apacer AP-CF016GRANS-ETNRC, JCAT USB Card Femto,
JCAT Reference SATA Cable, JCAT Net Card Femto

ControlPC: Intel S1200KPR, Intel Xeon E3-1265L V2, Apacer 75.A83EE.G000C 2GB DDR3 1066 ECC DIMM,

SATA to CF Adapter with Apacer AP-CF016GRANS-ETNRC (for Windows), SATA to CF Adapter with Apacer AP-CF016GRAFS-NR (for WAV-files),

JCAT Reference SATA Cable, JCAT Net Card Femto, JCAT Signature LAN Cable

Software: Windows Server 2016 Standard, Total Commander 9.21a, JPLAY 7 Femto, Audiophile Optimizer 2.20, Upplay 1.3.0

Audio equipment: JCAT Reference USB Cable, Harmony Design Pre 906, Moon Audio Silver Dragon V3 with Furutech Rhodium XLR, Sennheiser HD800


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Posted 02 September 2017 - 11:49 PM

Thanks Tomas.
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#60 Marcin_gps

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 12:28 PM

Hi,

 

Now I have began to use and I have placed the NET card in ControlPC because I don’t have a free PCIe slot in audioPC. Compared to before it became a clear improvement :) And again one more step better after having trimmed settings according to Marcin's manual. Thank you very much for that :)  I power the NET Card with an external LiFePO4 battery together with an ultra low noise and transient fast regulator, a clear improvement over all other power sources I have. If you have invested in this extremely good NET card so also use a really good separate power source only for the card is my advice :) 

 

best regards

Tomas

 

Tomas, thanks for the report! Indeed, high quality PSU is really important for the NET Card. (as well as for the USB Card)

 

Hi Marcin,
I tested card with LPS-1, whick produces max 1.2A. At one moment led on Lps-1 became red (capacitors not charged) and changed to green. So i think that at some moment card ate more than 1.2A. So i have doubts if the card just switched to internal motherboard power. Is that possible, that card can get power from motherboard and at the same time from external psu, if it doesnt provide enough power/current. Or card switches on external psu if it connected and only use its power and ignore motherboard even when external psu is too weak for card?

The NET Card will switch to PCIe power automatically and continue operation if external PSU fails or does not provide enough current. If you use only one port on the card, it might be an idea to disable 2nd port in device manager. It should help

 

Best regards,

Marcin






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