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#1 GoGa

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Posted 06 February 2017 - 01:15 AM

Hi,

I can't use JPlay (KS to XMOS driver) with HQPlayer 3.15 on Windows Server 2016 both in GUI and in core mode. I tried both with AO and without. HQPlayer crashes and exits every time the playback starts. The previous version of HQPlayer(3.13.3) works without any issues with the same settings. HQPlayer 3.15 with ASIO XMOS driver also works OK.

Has anybody here had the same issue?

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Music Server PC Hardware (single PC):

-- HDPlex H1.S fanless case
-- GA-H170N-WIFI motherboard
-- Core i5-6600T CPU (only 35W TDP!)
-- Samsung 850 EVO 120GB M.2 SATA3 Solid State Drive
-- Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16G 2X8GB 2133MHZ DDR4 Non-ECC CL14DIMM Dual Channel Memory
-- Blue Jeans CAT 6a LAN cable
-- UpTone USB Regen

Music Server PC software:

-- Win 2016 in Core Mode, AO 2.20, Process Lasso, Fidelizer Pro 7.10

Playback Software:

-- ROON Core on WIN2016 Core i7 laptop > UltraRendu

Digital Setup:

QNAP NAS (TS-453 Pro) > Audio PC > Sonore UltraRendu > iFi Mercury USB Cable > iFi iUSB + iPower > iFi Gemini USB Cable > Uptone USB Regen > Musical Paradise Tube DAC (MP-D2) > Accuphase SLC-15 XLR cables > ACCUPHASE E-470 integrated amplifier > Duelund DCA12GA Speaker Wire > Focal Electra 1038 BE speakers


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#2 GoGa

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 06:05 PM

Anyone?


Music Server PC Hardware (single PC):

-- HDPlex H1.S fanless case
-- GA-H170N-WIFI motherboard
-- Core i5-6600T CPU (only 35W TDP!)
-- Samsung 850 EVO 120GB M.2 SATA3 Solid State Drive
-- Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16G 2X8GB 2133MHZ DDR4 Non-ECC CL14DIMM Dual Channel Memory
-- Blue Jeans CAT 6a LAN cable
-- UpTone USB Regen

Music Server PC software:

-- Win 2016 in Core Mode, AO 2.20, Process Lasso, Fidelizer Pro 7.10

Playback Software:

-- ROON Core on WIN2016 Core i7 laptop > UltraRendu

Digital Setup:

QNAP NAS (TS-453 Pro) > Audio PC > Sonore UltraRendu > iFi Mercury USB Cable > iFi iUSB + iPower > iFi Gemini USB Cable > Uptone USB Regen > Musical Paradise Tube DAC (MP-D2) > Accuphase SLC-15 XLR cables > ACCUPHASE E-470 integrated amplifier > Duelund DCA12GA Speaker Wire > Focal Electra 1038 BE speakers


Power Source: PurePower 2000
 


#3 Marcin_gps

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 07:00 PM

Did you ask in the hqplayer thread on CA?


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#4 GoGa

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 01:42 PM

Did you ask in the hqplayer thread on CA?

Hi Marcin,

 

It's been a while since I reported this problem. Yes, I follow the HQP thread on CA and it seems like many other users experience the same problem. MIska's response was not to use JPlay as it needs fixing. Do you have any idea on what can be wrong? It's really sad that I can't use HQP with JPlay anymore, it was an unbeatable combination in terms of SQ.


Music Server PC Hardware (single PC):

-- HDPlex H1.S fanless case
-- GA-H170N-WIFI motherboard
-- Core i5-6600T CPU (only 35W TDP!)
-- Samsung 850 EVO 120GB M.2 SATA3 Solid State Drive
-- Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16G 2X8GB 2133MHZ DDR4 Non-ECC CL14DIMM Dual Channel Memory
-- Blue Jeans CAT 6a LAN cable
-- UpTone USB Regen

Music Server PC software:

-- Win 2016 in Core Mode, AO 2.20, Process Lasso, Fidelizer Pro 7.10

Playback Software:

-- ROON Core on WIN2016 Core i7 laptop > UltraRendu

Digital Setup:

QNAP NAS (TS-453 Pro) > Audio PC > Sonore UltraRendu > iFi Mercury USB Cable > iFi iUSB + iPower > iFi Gemini USB Cable > Uptone USB Regen > Musical Paradise Tube DAC (MP-D2) > Accuphase SLC-15 XLR cables > ACCUPHASE E-470 integrated amplifier > Duelund DCA12GA Speaker Wire > Focal Electra 1038 BE speakers


Power Source: PurePower 2000
 


#5 Marcin_gps

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 01:54 PM

We have not made any changes for over a year and hqplayer used to work fine with JPLAY as do other players. So whatever the cause is, it is not on JPLAY side. 

 

Best regards, 

Marcin


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#6 GoGa

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 03:06 PM

We have not made any changes for over a year and hqplayer used to work fine with JPLAY as do other players. So whatever the cause is, it is not on JPLAY side. 

 

Best regards, 

Marcin

I understand your point. But what should I do about the issue? Neither you nor Miska are willing to take care of the issue. Very frustrating and disappointing.


Music Server PC Hardware (single PC):

-- HDPlex H1.S fanless case
-- GA-H170N-WIFI motherboard
-- Core i5-6600T CPU (only 35W TDP!)
-- Samsung 850 EVO 120GB M.2 SATA3 Solid State Drive
-- Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16G 2X8GB 2133MHZ DDR4 Non-ECC CL14DIMM Dual Channel Memory
-- Blue Jeans CAT 6a LAN cable
-- UpTone USB Regen

Music Server PC software:

-- Win 2016 in Core Mode, AO 2.20, Process Lasso, Fidelizer Pro 7.10

Playback Software:

-- ROON Core on WIN2016 Core i7 laptop > UltraRendu

Digital Setup:

QNAP NAS (TS-453 Pro) > Audio PC > Sonore UltraRendu > iFi Mercury USB Cable > iFi iUSB + iPower > iFi Gemini USB Cable > Uptone USB Regen > Musical Paradise Tube DAC (MP-D2) > Accuphase SLC-15 XLR cables > ACCUPHASE E-470 integrated amplifier > Duelund DCA12GA Speaker Wire > Focal Electra 1038 BE speakers


Power Source: PurePower 2000
 


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 03:34 PM

Looks like there're three choices. 1/ Go with HQPlayer, leave Jplay; 2/ Go with Jplay, leave HQPlayer; 3/ Wait 'til two programs work together in the future, hopefully.
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 03:40 PM

Looks like there're three choices. 1/ Go with HQPlayer, leave Jplay; 2/ Go with Jplay, leave HQPlayer; 3/ Wait 'til two programs work together in the future, hopefully.

Well thank you captain obvious...


Music Server PC Hardware (single PC):

-- HDPlex H1.S fanless case
-- GA-H170N-WIFI motherboard
-- Core i5-6600T CPU (only 35W TDP!)
-- Samsung 850 EVO 120GB M.2 SATA3 Solid State Drive
-- Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16G 2X8GB 2133MHZ DDR4 Non-ECC CL14DIMM Dual Channel Memory
-- Blue Jeans CAT 6a LAN cable
-- UpTone USB Regen

Music Server PC software:

-- Win 2016 in Core Mode, AO 2.20, Process Lasso, Fidelizer Pro 7.10

Playback Software:

-- ROON Core on WIN2016 Core i7 laptop > UltraRendu

Digital Setup:

QNAP NAS (TS-453 Pro) > Audio PC > Sonore UltraRendu > iFi Mercury USB Cable > iFi iUSB + iPower > iFi Gemini USB Cable > Uptone USB Regen > Musical Paradise Tube DAC (MP-D2) > Accuphase SLC-15 XLR cables > ACCUPHASE E-470 integrated amplifier > Duelund DCA12GA Speaker Wire > Focal Electra 1038 BE speakers


Power Source: PurePower 2000
 


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Posted 23 March 2017 - 12:32 AM

Sorry I'm not that smart.
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#10 Marcin_gps

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 07:49 AM

I contacted Jussi, but he was unable to identify the issue. So that'd be it. 


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#11 GoGa

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 02:29 PM

I contacted Jussi, but he was unable to identify the issue. So that'd be it.

that's really strange. The issue is easily reproduced. Both you and Jussi have access to the code of your software. What can be easier than running it through the debugger and see where the problem is? Why can't you just cooperate with him and resolve the issue?

Music Server PC Hardware (single PC):

-- HDPlex H1.S fanless case
-- GA-H170N-WIFI motherboard
-- Core i5-6600T CPU (only 35W TDP!)
-- Samsung 850 EVO 120GB M.2 SATA3 Solid State Drive
-- Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16G 2X8GB 2133MHZ DDR4 Non-ECC CL14DIMM Dual Channel Memory
-- Blue Jeans CAT 6a LAN cable
-- UpTone USB Regen

Music Server PC software:

-- Win 2016 in Core Mode, AO 2.20, Process Lasso, Fidelizer Pro 7.10

Playback Software:

-- ROON Core on WIN2016 Core i7 laptop > UltraRendu

Digital Setup:

QNAP NAS (TS-453 Pro) > Audio PC > Sonore UltraRendu > iFi Mercury USB Cable > iFi iUSB + iPower > iFi Gemini USB Cable > Uptone USB Regen > Musical Paradise Tube DAC (MP-D2) > Accuphase SLC-15 XLR cables > ACCUPHASE E-470 integrated amplifier > Duelund DCA12GA Speaker Wire > Focal Electra 1038 BE speakers


Power Source: PurePower 2000
 


#12 BernieK

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 11:58 PM

I suggest you also keep an eye on the "JPLAY not working with HQplayer recent versions" thread in the JPLAY section of the forum. Recent posts may be pointing to the nature of the problem and possible way forward for the developers.


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#13 GoGa

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 03:21 PM

I suggest you also keep an eye on the "JPLAY not working with HQplayer recent versions" thread in the JPLAY section of the forum. Recent posts may be pointing to the nature of the problem and possible way forward for the developers.

Thank you Bernie!


Music Server PC Hardware (single PC):

-- HDPlex H1.S fanless case
-- GA-H170N-WIFI motherboard
-- Core i5-6600T CPU (only 35W TDP!)
-- Samsung 850 EVO 120GB M.2 SATA3 Solid State Drive
-- Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16G 2X8GB 2133MHZ DDR4 Non-ECC CL14DIMM Dual Channel Memory
-- Blue Jeans CAT 6a LAN cable
-- UpTone USB Regen

Music Server PC software:

-- Win 2016 in Core Mode, AO 2.20, Process Lasso, Fidelizer Pro 7.10

Playback Software:

-- ROON Core on WIN2016 Core i7 laptop > UltraRendu

Digital Setup:

QNAP NAS (TS-453 Pro) > Audio PC > Sonore UltraRendu > iFi Mercury USB Cable > iFi iUSB + iPower > iFi Gemini USB Cable > Uptone USB Regen > Musical Paradise Tube DAC (MP-D2) > Accuphase SLC-15 XLR cables > ACCUPHASE E-470 integrated amplifier > Duelund DCA12GA Speaker Wire > Focal Electra 1038 BE speakers


Power Source: PurePower 2000
 


#14 GoGa

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 05:37 PM

The latest version of HQPlayer 3.16.1 seems to be working now with JPlay. I did a quick listen an everything works and sounds good.


Music Server PC Hardware (single PC):

-- HDPlex H1.S fanless case
-- GA-H170N-WIFI motherboard
-- Core i5-6600T CPU (only 35W TDP!)
-- Samsung 850 EVO 120GB M.2 SATA3 Solid State Drive
-- Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16G 2X8GB 2133MHZ DDR4 Non-ECC CL14DIMM Dual Channel Memory
-- Blue Jeans CAT 6a LAN cable
-- UpTone USB Regen

Music Server PC software:

-- Win 2016 in Core Mode, AO 2.20, Process Lasso, Fidelizer Pro 7.10

Playback Software:

-- ROON Core on WIN2016 Core i7 laptop > UltraRendu

Digital Setup:

QNAP NAS (TS-453 Pro) > Audio PC > Sonore UltraRendu > iFi Mercury USB Cable > iFi iUSB + iPower > iFi Gemini USB Cable > Uptone USB Regen > Musical Paradise Tube DAC (MP-D2) > Accuphase SLC-15 XLR cables > ACCUPHASE E-470 integrated amplifier > Duelund DCA12GA Speaker Wire > Focal Electra 1038 BE speakers


Power Source: PurePower 2000
 






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