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#21 MarcinGD

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 02:30 PM

With a fresh install of windows 10 1607 + cumulative update do we still need drivers from adnaco?

I'm using driver linked on the Jcat shop. I was using it also under W10 when I was testing AO on it and it works without problem with both cards. http://files.jplay.e...30230-setup.exe


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Posted 21 September 2016 - 02:54 PM

With a fresh install of windows 10 1607 + cumulative update do we still need drivers from adnaco?

Driver from W8 and later is not required. The card will work out of box.

You could install it optionally though for a different sound signature

 

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 09:28 PM

Wrong question then :P ...

I meant: "are old drivers still preferable?"

For both asio and windows audio (wasapi) or for one of them only?

Sorry for too many questions, I just want to be ready to run when I receive the card on friday :wub:



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Posted 22 September 2016 - 05:12 AM

I do not use the optional driver anymore :)


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Posted 24 September 2016 - 11:03 AM

Back in the Win8 / 8.1 days, MS would install a generic Windows driver for the JCAT USB card.   In this case I would always make sure to install the optional Renesas driver as it present a different sound signature which I preferred.

 

Since Win10 installs the correct Renesas driver by default, I haven't bothered with the optional driver.



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Posted 24 September 2016 - 01:47 PM

It's still Microsoft driver only labeled as Renesas and in a newer version. 



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Posted 24 September 2016 - 01:49 PM

BTW - is there anybody else out there willing to share feedback? :)



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Posted 25 September 2016 - 07:28 PM

I've made other changes in my setup besides jcat card: jcat usb isolator, uptone lps, 2 dh labs power cables, an ifi dc purifier at the ssd input (lps powered). All at the same time. I had the previous version of the card.

I'm not sure it's about the card but since the first song played the sound is clearer, smoother and more relaxing, less sibilant and less digital, better decay.

Still not 100% perfect, but improved 15% or so over the previous setup.

Well done Marcin!



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Posted 25 September 2016 - 08:01 PM

I've made other changes in my setup besides jcat card: jcat usb isolator, uptone lps, 2 dh labs power cables, an ifi dc purifier at the ssd input (lps powered). All at the same time. I had the previous version of the card.

I'm not sure it's about the card but since the first song played the sound is clearer, smoother and more relaxing, less sibilant and less digital, better decay.

Still not 100% perfect, but improved 15% or so over the previous setup.

Well done Marcin!

Thanks for the report! How much burn-in is on your card already? It needs approximately one week to open up. Once it's burned it you get fuller bodied sound without nervousness. 

BTW - how do you power the card?

 

Cheers, 

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Posted 25 September 2016 - 08:05 PM

7 hours of burn-in, I noticed it's not stable, but I can hear its potential.

It's powered by the uptone js-2, the rest of the pc by an hdplex 100 + 250w hifi dc-atx (considering a 300).

No 5v filtering.


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 03:24 PM

7 hours of burn-in, I noticed it's not stable, but I can hear its potential.

It's powered by the uptone js-2, the rest of the pc by an hdplex 100 + 250w hifi dc-atx (considering a 300).

No 5v filtering.

Actually it will be 400W and will be available under JCAT too next month :)

I have a prototype running for over 6 months already. It's a beast

 

Cheers, 

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Posted 27 September 2016 - 12:17 PM

Don't miss the promo offer!

Only for 3 more days can JPLAY owners purchase the new JCAT USB Card FEMTO and save 50EUR! Send a message if you haven't received the discount coupon! 



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Posted 27 September 2016 - 03:22 PM

Don't miss the promo offer!

Only for 3 more days can JPLAY owners purchase the new JCAT USB Card FEMTO and save 50EUR! Send a message if you haven't received the discount coupon! 

 

Thank you Marcin for the reminder. I did a purchase just now, though I already have a nice sounding PPA card. But rarely something is so good that it can not be even better. Hope it is true this time too :) 

Regards

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AudioPC: Intel S1200V3RPS, Intel Xeon E3-1230LV3, Apacer AP2GITETLQ1K3 2GB DDR3 1066 ECC DIMM,

SATA to CF Adapter with Apacer AP-CF016GRANS-ETNRC, JCAT USB Card Femto,
JCAT Reference SATA Cable, JCAT Net Card Femto

ControlPC: Intel S1200KPR, Intel Xeon E3-1265L V2, Apacer 75.A83EE.G000C 2GB DDR3 1066 ECC DIMM,

SATA to CF Adapter with Apacer AP-CF016GRANS-ETNRC (for Windows), SATA to CF Adapter with Apacer AP-CF016GRAFS-NR (for WAV-files),

JCAT Reference SATA Cable, JCAT Net Card Femto, JCAT Signature LAN Cable

Software: Windows Server 2016 Standard, Total Commander 9.21a, JPLAY 7 Femto, Audiophile Optimizer 2.20, Upplay 1.3.0

Audio equipment: JCAT Reference USB Cable, Harmony Design Pre 906, Moon Audio Silver Dragon V3 with Furutech Rhodium XLR, Sennheiser HD800


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Posted 27 September 2016 - 05:29 PM

Thank you Marcin for the reminder. I did a purchase just now, though I already have a nice sounding PPA card. But rarely something is so good that it can not be even better. Hope it is true this time too :) 

Regards

Tomas

I think you'll be satisfied :) You won't find any switching power supplies on the JCAT USB Card as opposed to other USB cards


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Posted 03 October 2016 - 10:47 PM

I think my card settled down. Now it sounds a bit less smooth with more body and more resolving.
I'm still getting sweet sound, more relaxing and with better bass and instruments separation than before. I think that the card+isolator will just reveal the qualities of your d/a conversion and electronics. My dac nature is laidback while amplification and speakers are analytic, and these things are now more evident. My setup is not super-elaborated, on far better computers or dual pc I guess there will be less improvement.
So far I'm very satisfied.


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Posted 04 October 2016 - 04:30 PM

Hi there,

 

My new card has finally settled in after a week of intense music playing. The sound has matured and it´s very dynamic with full bass and with lots of new tiny details on old favourite recordings. Listening to music is very relaxing no matter the genre and as a bonus streamed internet music sounds better than ever. ;-)

 

Best regards 


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Posted 09 October 2016 - 03:37 PM

Hi

 

Yesterday I switched my PPA PCIe/USB3-card to the new JCAT V2 Femto and I experienced a clear improvement in SQ. I'm absolutely satisfied with the upgrade, even though I have only had time to listen a few hours yet. So the card has hardly begun to give its absolute full potential yet either.

Something else I'm very satisfied with is my setup generally, especially considering how good it sounds. Not my intention to brag but yesterday I traveled to Stockholm and listened to some of the world's most famous and best headphones, the absolutely top layer with the most exclusive that comprising Audeze LCD-4, Hifiman HE1000, Pioneer SE-Master1 and Sennheiser HD800S. I had heard JPS Labs Abyss earlier, along with Audeze LCD-3 and LCD-X. Apparently my old HD800 which I bought already in December 2009 is still very good in the competitive. It depends very much on all this excellent stuff I have behind them, where among other JPlay Streamer contributes strongly. This new JCAT card raise them another notch. Fantastic. My own setup with all this special soft- and hardware is pretty hard to beat in general at least when it comes to pure SQ. Although it’s very expensive stuff I compare to, is something I also noticed, latest yesterday. It feels good when all efforts gives such a result. Thanks. :D

 

Tomas


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AudioPC: Intel S1200V3RPS, Intel Xeon E3-1230LV3, Apacer AP2GITETLQ1K3 2GB DDR3 1066 ECC DIMM,

SATA to CF Adapter with Apacer AP-CF016GRANS-ETNRC, JCAT USB Card Femto,
JCAT Reference SATA Cable, JCAT Net Card Femto

ControlPC: Intel S1200KPR, Intel Xeon E3-1265L V2, Apacer 75.A83EE.G000C 2GB DDR3 1066 ECC DIMM,

SATA to CF Adapter with Apacer AP-CF016GRANS-ETNRC (for Windows), SATA to CF Adapter with Apacer AP-CF016GRAFS-NR (for WAV-files),

JCAT Reference SATA Cable, JCAT Net Card Femto, JCAT Signature LAN Cable

Software: Windows Server 2016 Standard, Total Commander 9.21a, JPLAY 7 Femto, Audiophile Optimizer 2.20, Upplay 1.3.0

Audio equipment: JCAT Reference USB Cable, Harmony Design Pre 906, Moon Audio Silver Dragon V3 with Furutech Rhodium XLR, Sennheiser HD800


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Posted 10 October 2016 - 11:17 AM

Hi Tomas, 

 

Thanks for the report! You're comparing to PPA OCXO USB Card, right? 

 

Regards, 
Marcin



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Posted 10 October 2016 - 01:53 PM

Hi Tomas, 

 

Thanks for the report! You're comparing to PPA OCXO USB Card, right? 

 

Regards, 
Marcin

 

Yes, it’s right. I forgot to write it.

 

Regards

Tomas


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AudioPC: Intel S1200V3RPS, Intel Xeon E3-1230LV3, Apacer AP2GITETLQ1K3 2GB DDR3 1066 ECC DIMM,

SATA to CF Adapter with Apacer AP-CF016GRANS-ETNRC, JCAT USB Card Femto,
JCAT Reference SATA Cable, JCAT Net Card Femto

ControlPC: Intel S1200KPR, Intel Xeon E3-1265L V2, Apacer 75.A83EE.G000C 2GB DDR3 1066 ECC DIMM,

SATA to CF Adapter with Apacer AP-CF016GRANS-ETNRC (for Windows), SATA to CF Adapter with Apacer AP-CF016GRAFS-NR (for WAV-files),

JCAT Reference SATA Cable, JCAT Net Card Femto, JCAT Signature LAN Cable

Software: Windows Server 2016 Standard, Total Commander 9.21a, JPLAY 7 Femto, Audiophile Optimizer 2.20, Upplay 1.3.0

Audio equipment: JCAT Reference USB Cable, Harmony Design Pre 906, Moon Audio Silver Dragon V3 with Furutech Rhodium XLR, Sennheiser HD800


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Posted 08 November 2016 - 02:20 PM

Marcin, do you think that this card could be used to connet a usb microphone for measurements? Could there be any advantages over a normal usb input?






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