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#261 yhajtko

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Posted 29 November 2018 - 11:08 PM

Hmm, can you use the bluetooth adapter via motherboard usb port? If device shows up then it seems like a configuration issue. 

 

Solved. Bluetooth needed a reboot. :)


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Posted 30 November 2018 - 11:10 AM

Solved. Bluetooth needed a reboot. :)

Good to hear :)



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Posted 18 December 2018 - 11:38 AM

Very nice video of the USB Card FEMTO by Fully Silent PCs

 


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Posted 22 December 2018 - 02:59 PM

Marcin, any idea for the official firmware release?


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Posted 22 December 2018 - 04:50 PM

Marcin, any idea for the official firmware release?

 

In January. There were no further changes from beta. There will be 2 scripts available: one for 2 active ports and one for a single active port which is what you have now. 

 

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 04:25 PM

JCAT USB Card FEMTO is comming. Waiting anxiously for new improvements.


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- Speakers KEF Reference 203/2 with spikes;

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- Source: Audio-PC is a dedicated computer with an Asrock Q1900-ITX (optimized BIOS), 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM 1333MHz, linear power supply (MK III), Furutech FI-06 ( R) and JCAT USB Card FEMTO. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 Core Mode 64bits with RAMdisk, JPlay FEMTO Alternative version and Audiophile Optimizer v. 2.20. Control-PC is a Core i7-7500U notebook with 16GB Samsung DDR4 RAM 2400MHz, 120GB Kingston SSD and 2TB Samsung HDD. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 GUI Mode 64bits with JPLAY FEMTO Alternative version.

- Cables: Nordost Tyr (speaker), Nordost Valhalla XLR (interconnect), Curious Cable (USB), Nordost Valhalla Power Cable (power distributor), Transparent PowerLink MM² (integrated amp.), Purist Audio Design 20th Anniversary Power Cable (computer), Nordost Valhalla Power Cable (DAC), Kimber Kable 12TC + gold plated connectors (24 way internal power supply cable of the mother board);

- Acessories: Furutech GTX-D (G); Furutech GTX-D ( R) (x2); Sunrise Deep Line (x3); spikes Viablue HS; ebony spikes, carbon fiber bases; Nordost Qv2 (x3); acoustical and electrical reinforcements.


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Posted 10 January 2019 - 10:56 PM

It's about time, Felipe. Can't wait to hear your impressions on the card itself and comparison to SOtM, after proper running in and delicious LPSU juice taken care of. Congratulations!
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 05:39 PM

Any idea when in January the second script will be released?


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Posted 14 January 2019 - 07:27 AM

Any idea when in January the second script will be released?

 

When it's done. Could be next week :) 

 

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Posted 15 January 2019 - 05:13 PM

Hello guys. The USB card finally arrived here. I've already installed and started the burn-in process. I'm very impressed with the construction. In addition to the famous Crystek clock, I've seen that the USB connectors are Amphenol. All of the highest level! How can I get the new firmware?

 

The sound seems much better than the onboard USB connection and considerably superior to SOtM tx-USBexp, but I've heard just a few songs, and without proper burning there's no way to have a solo opinion.


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- Speakers KEF Reference 203/2 with spikes;

- Integrated amplifier Sunrise V8 MK IV;

- DAC Ayre QB-9 192/24 + Sax Soul Ágata Fuse + Furutech FI-03 ( R);

- Source: Audio-PC is a dedicated computer with an Asrock Q1900-ITX (optimized BIOS), 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM 1333MHz, linear power supply (MK III), Furutech FI-06 ( R) and JCAT USB Card FEMTO. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 Core Mode 64bits with RAMdisk, JPlay FEMTO Alternative version and Audiophile Optimizer v. 2.20. Control-PC is a Core i7-7500U notebook with 16GB Samsung DDR4 RAM 2400MHz, 120GB Kingston SSD and 2TB Samsung HDD. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 GUI Mode 64bits with JPLAY FEMTO Alternative version.

- Cables: Nordost Tyr (speaker), Nordost Valhalla XLR (interconnect), Curious Cable (USB), Nordost Valhalla Power Cable (power distributor), Transparent PowerLink MM² (integrated amp.), Purist Audio Design 20th Anniversary Power Cable (computer), Nordost Valhalla Power Cable (DAC), Kimber Kable 12TC + gold plated connectors (24 way internal power supply cable of the mother board);

- Acessories: Furutech GTX-D (G); Furutech GTX-D ( R) (x2); Sunrise Deep Line (x3); spikes Viablue HS; ebony spikes, carbon fiber bases; Nordost Qv2 (x3); acoustical and electrical reinforcements.


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Posted 15 January 2019 - 07:12 PM

Wait till you get the firmware script. There's a huge difference.


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Posted 15 January 2019 - 10:41 PM

Hello guys. The USB card finally arrived here. I've already installed and started the burn-in process. I'm very impressed with the construction. In addition to the famous Crystek clock, I've seen that the USB connectors are Amphenol. All of the highest level! How can I get the new firmware?
 
The sound seems much better than the onboard USB connection and considerably superior to SOtM tx-USBexp, but I've heard just a few songs, and without proper burning there's no way to have a solo opinion.


Having the new firmware or not, you want to give the card enough burn-in time. Perhaps this is a good time to experiment various jumper configurations and power supply. Congrats and enjoy!
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Posted 16 January 2019 - 11:02 AM

 

The sound seems much better than the onboard USB connection and considerably superior to SOtM tx-USBexp, but I've heard just a few songs, and without proper burning there's no way to have a solo opinion.

Hi FelipeRolim,

 

did you compare it with just the SOtM tx-USBexp or with the combo tx-USBexp + clock sCLK-48.0 with SOtM mBPS-d2s 9V battery PSU  ?



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Posted 16 January 2019 - 11:41 AM

Having the new firmware or not, you want to give the card enough burn-in time. Perhaps this is a good time to experiment various jumper configurations and power supply. Congrats and enjoy!

 

Hi thuanb. Yes, I'll respect the burn-in time, because it's important to extract as much as the USB card can deliver. Besides that, the warm-up time, at every system wake-up, is very important. About power supplies and jumper configurations, for now I'm using the own linear power supply that I built for my computer (internal MOLEX connector) and the filters in mode ON. For future, I'll try to change these filters and try another power supplies, especially external ones.

 

Hi FelipeRolim,

 

did you compare it with just the SOtM tx-USBexp or with the combo tx-USBexp + clock sCLK-48.0 with SOtM mBPS-d2s 9V battery PSU  ?

 

Hi DC. I haven't compared anything yet, but I don't have the clock and the battery. The clock is very expensive, and I didn't bought it because I was looking for a more "definitive" solution. This is why I bought the JCAT USB Card FEMTO. Regarding the battery, I know how it sounds, and I don't like it. For years I adopted batteries as a reference in my system, and among them, I met mBPS-d2s. Based on the linear power supplies I had at the time (all DIY), I noted that the batteries worked better with sustained notes of wind instruments (flute, violins, saxophones), nylon string guitars, soft feminine voices, while the linear power supplies always worked better on dynamic, high complexity and/or velocity sounds, such as drums, orchestras, guitars, steel string guitars, among others. Use a 20000mA power bank adapted to power the JCAT externally and you'll be able to see exactly what I've described. Li and NiCd batteries sounds practically the same, but ZiC's for aviation are much better and harder to beat. The SOtM battery has no differential. By removing the switching circuit between batteries, there's virtually no difference whatsoever. So, I started to study the sonorities of the batteries and the power supplies and try to optimize the linear ones, until finally I was able to build something that brought together the best of both things, and this is the supply that I currently use in my computer. The problem is that now this power supply I built is very difficult to overcome, so I'll need a lot of time to develop something external with 5v that has the ability to play better.

 

Yesterday I enjoyed a lot the system with the JCAT USB Card FEMTO. No doubt it has better detailing, much more precise sound stage and much more delicate sound. However, I still notice the typical sound of something without burn-in. I have the impression that there's a lack of articulation, of body and of dynamics. The sound is extremely clear, but there's still a little bit of wealth I had with SOtM, what makes "sound" sound like "music", hehehe. After 10 hours of playing, I thought it improved and these characteristics started to appear, but I didn't identify if it was the burn-in time taking effect, or if the ears got used to it. I need more time to define clearly.


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- Speakers KEF Reference 203/2 with spikes;

- Integrated amplifier Sunrise V8 MK IV;

- DAC Ayre QB-9 192/24 + Sax Soul Ágata Fuse + Furutech FI-03 ( R);

- Source: Audio-PC is a dedicated computer with an Asrock Q1900-ITX (optimized BIOS), 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM 1333MHz, linear power supply (MK III), Furutech FI-06 ( R) and JCAT USB Card FEMTO. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 Core Mode 64bits with RAMdisk, JPlay FEMTO Alternative version and Audiophile Optimizer v. 2.20. Control-PC is a Core i7-7500U notebook with 16GB Samsung DDR4 RAM 2400MHz, 120GB Kingston SSD and 2TB Samsung HDD. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 GUI Mode 64bits with JPLAY FEMTO Alternative version.

- Cables: Nordost Tyr (speaker), Nordost Valhalla XLR (interconnect), Curious Cable (USB), Nordost Valhalla Power Cable (power distributor), Transparent PowerLink MM² (integrated amp.), Purist Audio Design 20th Anniversary Power Cable (computer), Nordost Valhalla Power Cable (DAC), Kimber Kable 12TC + gold plated connectors (24 way internal power supply cable of the mother board);

- Acessories: Furutech GTX-D (G); Furutech GTX-D ( R) (x2); Sunrise Deep Line (x3); spikes Viablue HS; ebony spikes, carbon fiber bases; Nordost Qv2 (x3); acoustical and electrical reinforcements.


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Posted 16 January 2019 - 11:47 AM

Hi Felipe,

 

Thanks for the report!

The 'wealth' will appear once the burn-in is completed and, especially, once you load the new firmware ;)

 

If your DAC does not require 5V via USB ports, I'd recommend removing all jumpers from the card. 

 

Regards,

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 11:59 AM

Hi Marcin, unfortunately my version of the Ayre QB-9 needs the 5v via USB cable. I believe that only the QB-9 DSD is dispensing, because it identifies the signal via data path. Mine, which is the QB-9 192/24, needs the 5v signal to exit the standby mode. I've tried doing this with SOtM and it doesn't work, unfortunately. Anyway, I'll do the test later. Thank you! I'm waiting for the firmware!!!


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- Speakers KEF Reference 203/2 with spikes;

- Integrated amplifier Sunrise V8 MK IV;

- DAC Ayre QB-9 192/24 + Sax Soul Ágata Fuse + Furutech FI-03 ( R);

- Source: Audio-PC is a dedicated computer with an Asrock Q1900-ITX (optimized BIOS), 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM 1333MHz, linear power supply (MK III), Furutech FI-06 ( R) and JCAT USB Card FEMTO. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 Core Mode 64bits with RAMdisk, JPlay FEMTO Alternative version and Audiophile Optimizer v. 2.20. Control-PC is a Core i7-7500U notebook with 16GB Samsung DDR4 RAM 2400MHz, 120GB Kingston SSD and 2TB Samsung HDD. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 GUI Mode 64bits with JPLAY FEMTO Alternative version.

- Cables: Nordost Tyr (speaker), Nordost Valhalla XLR (interconnect), Curious Cable (USB), Nordost Valhalla Power Cable (power distributor), Transparent PowerLink MM² (integrated amp.), Purist Audio Design 20th Anniversary Power Cable (computer), Nordost Valhalla Power Cable (DAC), Kimber Kable 12TC + gold plated connectors (24 way internal power supply cable of the mother board);

- Acessories: Furutech GTX-D (G); Furutech GTX-D ( R) (x2); Sunrise Deep Line (x3); spikes Viablue HS; ebony spikes, carbon fiber bases; Nordost Qv2 (x3); acoustical and electrical reinforcements.


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Posted 16 January 2019 - 02:42 PM

Hi Marcin, unfortunately my version of the Ayre QB-9 needs the 5v via USB cable. I believe that only the QB-9 DSD is dispensing, because it identifies the signal via data path. Mine, which is the QB-9 192/24, needs the 5v signal to exit the standby mode. I've tried doing this with SOtM and it doesn't work, unfortunately. Anyway, I'll do the test later. Thank you! I'm waiting for the firmware!!!

 

As an alternative you can use a dual lead / separated usb cable (JCAT Reference for instance), and use a separate 5V power supply for your DAC. Then you can remove all jumpers and get even better SQ. So I've done, because even my DAC needs 5V.


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Posted 16 January 2019 - 02:58 PM

Hello Tomslin. For now, I don't intend to change the USB cable. I'm using a Curious Cable and I like a lot its sound. Actually, I want to upgrade the DAC this year, so, I think that's a better choice, at least for this moment.


- Speakers KEF Reference 203/2 with spikes;

- Integrated amplifier Sunrise V8 MK IV;

- DAC Ayre QB-9 192/24 + Sax Soul Ágata Fuse + Furutech FI-03 ( R);

- Source: Audio-PC is a dedicated computer with an Asrock Q1900-ITX (optimized BIOS), 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM 1333MHz, linear power supply (MK III), Furutech FI-06 ( R) and JCAT USB Card FEMTO. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 Core Mode 64bits with RAMdisk, JPlay FEMTO Alternative version and Audiophile Optimizer v. 2.20. Control-PC is a Core i7-7500U notebook with 16GB Samsung DDR4 RAM 2400MHz, 120GB Kingston SSD and 2TB Samsung HDD. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 GUI Mode 64bits with JPLAY FEMTO Alternative version.

- Cables: Nordost Tyr (speaker), Nordost Valhalla XLR (interconnect), Curious Cable (USB), Nordost Valhalla Power Cable (power distributor), Transparent PowerLink MM² (integrated amp.), Purist Audio Design 20th Anniversary Power Cable (computer), Nordost Valhalla Power Cable (DAC), Kimber Kable 12TC + gold plated connectors (24 way internal power supply cable of the mother board);

- Acessories: Furutech GTX-D (G); Furutech GTX-D ( R) (x2); Sunrise Deep Line (x3); spikes Viablue HS; ebony spikes, carbon fiber bases; Nordost Qv2 (x3); acoustical and electrical reinforcements.


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Posted 16 January 2019 - 03:18 PM

Many thanks for your comments FelipeRolim..

 

I asked you this because I'm using the SOtM combo on my audio PC with many satisfaction for about 4 years, now.

I've compared the mBPS-d2s with 9V PSU and I prefer the mBPS-d2s (more natural sound, better sound stage etc....). 9V PSU is not bad but I've found a little more brightness and sibillence with it than with the mBPS-d2s.

​It could be interesting to compare my actual SOtM combo to the JCAT USB FEMTO card.



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Posted 16 January 2019 - 03:42 PM

I don't know many USB cards, just SOtM tx-USBexp (without sCLK-48.0), Paul Pang USB v2 and JCAT USB Card FEMTO. The worst, between these three, is the Paul Pang. I've already wrote about Paul Pang gadgets and I really don't like anything that he sells. It's a charlatanism. Regarding SOtM, I also don't know how much a dedicated clock could improve the sound, but, despite a few things that I hope that the burn-in and the new firmware solves (such as Marcin said), the JCAT is the best USB card that I've already hearded. The sound is in another level of detailing and fluidity, there's a lot of extra information in every music, the sound stage is incredible, but I miss a little of realism. I'm sure I need to give the card the right time so that it can work to its fullest, so any opinion is now premature.

 

About batteries vs. linear power supplies, the vast majority have the sound very close to what you described, so you heard correctly, in my opinion. This is exactly what I used as a reference in my linear power supply, so that after a lot of work I can make the sound go perfectly between aggressiveness and gentleness, speed and delicacy, hardness is subtlety. It was fantastic and, at this stage, the power cable is of fundamental importance. I currently have very good cables, Nordost Valhalla, Transparent PowerLink MM² and Purist 20th Anniversary. Only the Purist, among the three, collaborated so that the PC delivered all the best that a linear power supply and a battery can offer. I honestly think that we shouldn't disregard the importance of a power cable, even if it is to power a 5v power supply that will be connected to the USB card. Try it, you may be surprised.

 

I also think that everyone should compare, wherever possible, the batteries with linear power supplies. Differences in sound can greatly help define the "approach" we want.

 

PS: SOtM has literally abandoned its computer products and is dedicating itself to selling peripherals that, in my opinion, have little or nothing to do with true digital audio. Even a driver update they sent to tx-USBexp, which I've used since 2015 without an update. I sent them an e-mail questioning, and they told me they were satisfied. Since I wasn't, I changed the brand...


- Speakers KEF Reference 203/2 with spikes;

- Integrated amplifier Sunrise V8 MK IV;

- DAC Ayre QB-9 192/24 + Sax Soul Ágata Fuse + Furutech FI-03 ( R);

- Source: Audio-PC is a dedicated computer with an Asrock Q1900-ITX (optimized BIOS), 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM 1333MHz, linear power supply (MK III), Furutech FI-06 ( R) and JCAT USB Card FEMTO. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 Core Mode 64bits with RAMdisk, JPlay FEMTO Alternative version and Audiophile Optimizer v. 2.20. Control-PC is a Core i7-7500U notebook with 16GB Samsung DDR4 RAM 2400MHz, 120GB Kingston SSD and 2TB Samsung HDD. The Operational System is a Windows Server 2016 GUI Mode 64bits with JPLAY FEMTO Alternative version.

- Cables: Nordost Tyr (speaker), Nordost Valhalla XLR (interconnect), Curious Cable (USB), Nordost Valhalla Power Cable (power distributor), Transparent PowerLink MM² (integrated amp.), Purist Audio Design 20th Anniversary Power Cable (computer), Nordost Valhalla Power Cable (DAC), Kimber Kable 12TC + gold plated connectors (24 way internal power supply cable of the mother board);

- Acessories: Furutech GTX-D (G); Furutech GTX-D ( R) (x2); Sunrise Deep Line (x3); spikes Viablue HS; ebony spikes, carbon fiber bases; Nordost Qv2 (x3); acoustical and electrical reinforcements.





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