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Started by RubenV. , May 14 2016 01:52 PM
Process lasso AO Fidelizer JPlay dual streamer setup

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#1 RubenV.

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Posted 14 May 2016 - 01:52 PM

Hi!

 

Currently I am using a dual streamer setup(WS2012R2) with JPlay 6 and AO 1.3. I mostly listen to Tidal through ASIO bridge. For local files I use JPlay mini which sounds better.

 

I want to update both streamers to the latest version which brings me to the following questions:

- To get the best quality out of Tidal should I use BubbleDS Next? Is this Kernel streaming or still ASIO?

- Is it okay to first install WS2012R2, JPlay, AO, Process Lasso and Fidelizer Pro or is this the wrong order?

(The reason I am asking is I want to run my audio pc in core mode and this will make it harder or impossible to install PL and Fidelizer without UI?)

 

Thanks!


- Case: Streacom FC8 Evo                                           - Harddisk: Intel 520 120GB SSD
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Posted 14 May 2016 - 02:05 PM

Ah, I just found a partial answer for one of my questions regarding PL:

 

The “Install Kernel-Streaming and MediaPlayer“ feature will make sure the GUI of Process Lasso will also fire up fine in core mode.

If one has already optimized the Setup using AO prior to installing Process Lasso, it is recommended to do a full reset using ServiceTool before installing Process Lasso. Once Process Lasso is successfully installed, one should do a full run with AO again.


- Case: Streacom FC8 Evo                                           - Harddisk: Intel 520 120GB SSD
- Processor: Intel Core i5 3570T Tray                            - Powersupply: PPA dual rail LPSU + batteries
- Motherboard: ASRock Z77E-ITX                                 - USB/SATA/AES cable: PPAstudio RED
- Memory: Crucial BLT4G3D1337DT1TX0CEU 2X 4GB      - PPAstudio CFreader + DDC
- USB card: PPAstudio pci-express usb3.0 card             

- DAC: dCS Paganini                                                   - Speakers: Linkwitz LX521 + Thor subwoofers

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Posted 14 May 2016 - 04:11 PM

>- To get the best quality out of Tidal should I use BubbleDS Next? Is this Kernel streaming or still ASIO?

 

Yes, BubbleDS Next will work directly with JPLAYStreamer for equal or better SQ over JPLAYmini.

KS or ASIO is not specific to TIDAL, it applies to any player or source - Most people prefer KS with ULTRAStream.


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Posted 15 May 2016 - 01:10 AM

Hi!

 

Currently I am using a dual streamer setup(WS2012R2) with JPlay 6 and AO 1.3. I mostly listen to Tidal through ASIO bridge. For local files I use JPlay mini which sounds better.

 

I want to update both streamers to the latest version which brings me to the following questions:

- To get the best quality out of Tidal should I use BubbleDS Next? Is this Kernel streaming or still ASIO?

- Is it okay to first install WS2012R2, JPlay, AO, Process Lasso and Fidelizer Pro or is this the wrong order?

(The reason I am asking is I want to run my audio pc in core mode and this will make it harder or impossible to install PL and Fidelizer without UI?)

 

Thanks!

 

Hi RubenV,

 

You could install both PL and Fidelizer from a command window, but I would recommend using Q-Dir for file management in core mode. QDir is an excellent program, is freeware, and can be obtained here: http://www.softwareo...=Freeware/Q-Dir

 

It will install in core mode (from command window) and then can be used (in core mode) for file manipulation and to install programs that will install in core mode, including Fidelizer.

 

Cheers,

 

Bernie


Control Point: Apple iPad (9th gen), 64Gb storage, 3Gb RAM, JPLAY for iOS 1.2.7; Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite, 128Gb storage, 4Gb RAM, Bubble UPnP 4.4.8; Dell Inspiron 15 5510 laptop (Windows 11 Professional (x64) Version 23H2 (build 22631.4169), Intel Core i7-11390H, 2.93 GHz, 512Gb KIOXIA M2 PCIe NVMe (RAID) SSD, 16Gb DDR4 3200 MHz RAM), Upplay 1.8.1.

Control and Audio-PCs: Asus Mini PC PN60, Intel Core i5 8250U 1.6 GHz, 250Gb Kingston A2000 M2 NVMe SSD and 8Gb DDR4 2400 MHz RAM.

OS: Windows Server 2019 (Standard Edition) in highly optimized Desktop mode, command prompt shell for initial setup after which Control and Audio-PCs run headless (monitor, keyboard, mouse all disconnected).
Optimization: Audiophile Optimizer 3.0, TrustedClean 3.1b-server on RAM Disk (Control-PC and Audio-PC - automated RAM Disk creation procedure and TC settings as in my RAM Disk Guide, revised 16 January 2025), Process Lasso Server Edition 15.1.0.50, additional Windows processes/services stopped via registry editor, task manager and modified CAD DSK script (for complete procedure see my WS2019 Optimization Guide, revised 16 January 2025).

Renderer: JPLAY FEMTO 7.0D UPnP (Alternative version), Server: JPLAY FEMTO 7.0D femtoServer, File Manager: Q-Dir 12.13, Library Manager: JRiver MC 32.0.6.
JPLAY Settings: Playing via: KS, Engine: ULTRAstream, Bitstream: Native, Bitperfect Volume: OFF, DAC Link: 1000, XtreamSize: 1000, Throttle: ON, Hibernate Mode: ON.

Equipment Configuration: Tablet/Laptop > WiFi > Control-PC > 1m SUPRA Cat 8 Ethernet Cable > Audio-PC > 3m Chord C-USB Cable > Topping D90SE > 1m Chord Chameleon Plus XLR cables with Neutrik connectors > Rotel RC 1590 > 2m Mogami NEGLEX XLR cables with Neutrik connectors > March Audio P501 Monoblocks with Purifi 1ET7040SA modules > Van Den Hul CS-122 Hybrid speaker cables (Neotech banana/spade connectors) > Bryston PX-1 external crossovers > speaker cables (as before) > Bryston Model T Signature Speakers. AC power filtered/cleaned via Thor A12BF Smart Power Board. 

Music Storage: Main Library: 6Tb Seagate HDD/Hub+6Tb Seagate HDD (all connections via 0.5m Avencore Premium USB 3.0 cables); Backups (x2): as per Main Library.

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Posted 17 May 2016 - 08:54 PM

>- To get the best quality out of Tidal should I use BubbleDS Next? Is this Kernel streaming or still ASIO?

 

Yes, BubbleDS Next will work directly with JPLAYStreamer for equal or better SQ over JPLAYmini.

KS or ASIO is not specific to TIDAL, it applies to any player or source - Most people prefer KS with ULTRAStream.

 

Thanks for your reply Josef, much appreciated. Unfortunately, I misunderstood the BubbleDS part. This is only for Android, right?

I tried the Kazoo server and JPlay was shown as "playback device" so that part works.

 

 

Hi RubenV,

 

You could install both PL and Fidelizer from a command window, but I would recommend using Q-Dir for file management in core mode. QDir is an excellent program, is freeware, and can be obtained here: http://www.softwareo...=Freeware/Q-Dir

 

It will install in core mode (from command window) and then can be used (in core mode) for file manipulation and to install programs that will install in core mode, including Fidelizer.

 

Cheers,

 

Bernie

 

Hi Bernie,

 

Thanks a lot for the recommendation! That will save me a lot of time making sure my spelling of the needed commands is 100%.

 

Best, Ruben


- Case: Streacom FC8 Evo                                           - Harddisk: Intel 520 120GB SSD
- Processor: Intel Core i5 3570T Tray                            - Powersupply: PPA dual rail LPSU + batteries
- Motherboard: ASRock Z77E-ITX                                 - USB/SATA/AES cable: PPAstudio RED
- Memory: Crucial BLT4G3D1337DT1TX0CEU 2X 4GB      - PPAstudio CFreader + DDC
- USB card: PPAstudio pci-express usb3.0 card             

- DAC: dCS Paganini                                                   - Speakers: Linkwitz LX521 + Thor subwoofers

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Posted 18 May 2016 - 11:09 AM

Scanning through the forum I noticed that someone used Tidal through Softsqueze. I will try if I can get it to work with the newer Squeezeplay or a similar program, which would work together with JPlay. I am getting there :D


- Case: Streacom FC8 Evo                                           - Harddisk: Intel 520 120GB SSD
- Processor: Intel Core i5 3570T Tray                            - Powersupply: PPA dual rail LPSU + batteries
- Motherboard: ASRock Z77E-ITX                                 - USB/SATA/AES cable: PPAstudio RED
- Memory: Crucial BLT4G3D1337DT1TX0CEU 2X 4GB      - PPAstudio CFreader + DDC
- USB card: PPAstudio pci-express usb3.0 card             

- DAC: dCS Paganini                                                   - Speakers: Linkwitz LX521 + Thor subwoofers
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