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Posted by Marcin_gps on 07 May 2018 - 07:16 AM
I know the topic is well known to many music lovers and audiophiles. I'm a huge fan of jazz trios myself; classical, modern, melodious, jumpy - all styles really.
Recently at the local jazz festival in my city (Jazz nad Odra) I discovered a pianist & composer Dan Tepfer. His music and style are so different from what I'd known that I needed a moment to adjust. Once I did, the music really touched me. I can recommend his latest album 'Eleven Cages'. It's available on tidal. Here's a sample, hope you enjoy it:
Have you discovered any interesting jazz trios lately? Please share
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Posted by Marcin_gps on 14 July 2011 - 09:41 AM
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Posted by FelipeRolim on 08 November 2018 - 02:21 PM
Hello guys. After I spent a lot of time trying to make my dedicated computer work with RAMdisk, I finally managed to succeed in this endeavor. As I tried many different paths, I wrote down everything so that I had some "extra" information when I finally got it, and also to have a guide in case I had to do it again. Well, I didn't have to do it again, hehe, but I hope the information I wrote down as "definitive" in terms of functioning is actually correct and helpful to colleagues in the forum. As I am Brazilian and I wrote the text originally in Portuguese, I spent some time transcribing it into English, so that it is possible to share with colleagues of this forum. I think it's valid, because it really was very difficult to get it for the first time.
For those who don't know, RAMdisk is one of the most high-performance methods for audiophiles in the world, and although I've never read anything about it in this forum and only have a personal friend who has tested before me, I've read a lot, a lot , much information in international scope, where it seems that the theme is more evolved. Reducing latency and high throughput is only a small part of the benefits. If that weren't enough, I've never heard any "original" setup, with SSD, SD card, M.2, or anything else, that delivers audio quality as good as RAMdisk. For me, it's the best, but what I don't know is if there are different RAM models that deliver different sonorities (Corsair vs. Kingston; Kingston vs. Crucial; Corsair vs. GSkill; e.g.).
To make it easier for me and my colleagues, I created a PDF file that can be downloaded, because the text is large and I also attached some images to make the complicated parts more enlightening.
Finally, I remind colleagues that although there are Windows software that makes RAMdisk easily, they only allow a very limited part of RAM to be defined as storage, and they don't allow the operating system itself to be installed or loaded on it. The guide I've tried to create effectively causes 100% of the operating system to go to RAM and run from it.
Here is a working video:
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Posted by JazzDoc on 21 August 2018 - 03:14 PM
This excitement regarding audiophile recordings is all very well but how do you know that you are listening to a genuine audiophile recording and not a mere pretender? I hope that the following questionnaire will help:
- Is the featured artist someone who you have never heard of?
- Are they playing an instrument that looks impossible to tune, much less play?
- Does the featured artist spell their name in an unusual way?
- Was the recording released by an obscure record label?
- Does the music contained in the recording celebrate the cultural diversity of an indigenous people or their country of origin?
- Was the recording made using a restored vintage analogue R2R recording device, e.g. Nagra, Studer?
- Is the music contained in the recording wholly inappropriate for dancing?
- Would you have no wish to see the featured artist in live performance?
- Does the featured artist have facial hair? (Please note that this question is also applicable to female artists)
- Is it likely that, having listened to the recording once, you would never play it again?
- Would the featured artist be unlikely to release a ‘Greatest Hits’ album?
- Does the recording enable you to focus on the more detailed mid-range of your most recent system upgrade?
If you can answer ‘Yes’ to six or more of these questions, then you are probably dealing with a genuine audiophile recording. Take comfort in the knowledge that you probably have a great hi-fi system. If not, just file it in the ‘Redundant’ category of your music library, alongside ‘Kind Of Blue’ by Miles Davis and ‘Electric Ladyland’ by The Jimi Hendrix Experience.
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Posted by FelipeRolim on 13 November 2018 - 01:06 AM
Since I had the feeling that the real performance of a stereo system isn't achieved by a desktop blu-ray player, but with a completely dedicated computer, I spent a lot of time on the mission of extracting the best I can from a dedicated computer. For this, many and many hours of studying and listening have brought me to the current stage, with at least one computer that I think performs well. In this topic, my goal is to write some things that I consider for a computer assembly, things that I took into consideration, things that worked for me, and that's why they represent my personal opinion on the subject.
The first thing that I consider essential in a dedicated computer is a linear power supply. First, talking generically, what I have to say is: every low signal source that's part of the system (computer, pre-amp, DAC, e.g.) is extremely more sensible than high signal source (usually amplifiers and integrated amps). It happens because the SNR between them is very small, in direct comparison. For example, a noise of 0,5v represents much more for a circuit with a voltage of 1,5v, 4v or 5v (as in the USB connection, or between DAC and pre-amp, or between pre-amp and amplifier) than for a circuit with 35v signal (amplified output). This makes a special care with noise necessary for our systems, especially high frequency noise. Many people say that electromagnetic shielding is enough, but it just physically isolates the circuit elements. I could, e.g., insulate a transformer with mu-metal, or a power supply, and probably the high-frequency irradiation will be controlled. However, there are other two big strands that are part of the equation: a) controlling EMI/RFI waves irradiation doesn't mean that they won't exist amymore, but just will remain closed. I mean, by enveloping a computer power supply, for example, all radiated noise will be confined within itself, reflecting indefinitely (there is a difference between absorbing and isolating); b ) even with a control of the phisycal incidence of electromagnetical waves, we cannot forget that noise also circulates over the conductors. And not just that. High-frequency noise has no "path", no definite direction. At the same time that it comes with the power cables (phase and neutral), it also returns through the same cables. In a few words, it means that the noise generated by a switched power supply propagates through internal components, spreads to the equipments through the USB cable, the coaxial cable, the RCA/XLR cables and reaches the speakers, but also returns by the electric cables to feed the other equipments directly by the transformer. This is, therefore, a double loss, since, with a switched power supply in the system, everything loses: DACs, preamplifiers, among others, and not just the equipment with a switched power supply. Not long ago I was highly contested in a Facebook group when making these notes, but no one was willing to prove me the opposite with the use of an oscilloscope. It's obvious that's there are linear PSU and linear PSU, switched PSU and switched PSU, and that an excellent switched power supply can be better than a bad linear power supply, but, in principle, working at 60Hz and with adequate filtering (and a few other things), a linear power supply, by its nature, can achieve a better level of performance.
Based on several assumptions, I developed and tested a dozen linear power supplies to arrive at the final form of what I have today. I believe that implementations are possible, but this isn't the focus of my dedication now. The fact is that after I completely removed any and all switched power supplies from my system, the performance level went up severely, and as I was implementing the computer and other items, I noticed that much of what I heard was due to the fact that the computer didn't has a switched power supply, and I was able to prevent it from inserting noise into the network or audio path. So, I consider that the first and one of the most important care of any audiophile that wants to build a digital stereo system is the non-use of switched power supplies and, of course, the adoption of good performance linear power supplies.
In next post, I'll write about the hardware of a dedicated computer (motherboard, processors and others). Hope you enjoy.
PS.: for those interested, I can also talk and explain about the construction of my linear power supplies, already apologizing for my bad English.
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Posted by franran on 18 March 2016 - 01:47 AM
I don't understand a word of Japanese, except arigato. Any correspondence I have had with him has been very confusing. I have much compassion for a mentally ill person. Despite his severe psychosis, Hiroyuki has managed to create the best audio player on the planet. I am very grateful to him and support him spiritually...and occassionally otherwise. He knows that I genuinely care about him. I pray that he finds mental peace. Someone without compassion might find his illness a bother. I don't. It makes me admire him more for what he has accomplished. There are people who don't appreciate what he has created and given away for free. They personally attack him. That is not delusion, it is fact. The world is full of unhappy people who would do this.
He has a little music system, inferior to most systems on this forum. He only currently has Windows 10 to develop from. He can not troubleshoot problems pertaining to other OSs. He knows that those with Windows 7 and 8 can update for free to Windows 10, which sounds better anyway. He allows WS2012 R2 to load his player, but in no way supports it. It doesn't work well for me anymore so I don't use the new versions. It is okay. 6.66 is a wonderful gift from a brilliant man in Japan.
I accept problems in life and look for solutions where they can be found. The solutions often lead to better things than what was had before "the problem" was encountered .
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Posted by brunohegy on 07 February 2019 - 10:36 AM
hello everyone, i wanted to share my experience, i'm on server 2019, femto, jriver, jremote, audiogd, amanero isolate, and my bill beard BB100 ...... i want to tell you c a meirveille i listen only dsd 128 in asio and c a real happiness, I tested a lot of products like Roon HQplayer, aurdivana, jriver and of course foobar, but none of my enjoy the pleasure and the quality of femto ..... BRAVO has jplayfemto ... ....
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Posted by The Chaplin (Peter C) on 20 November 2018 - 10:46 PM
Thought it would nice to share our test tracks.
Stop me if we have a topic elsewhere & let me know where thanks.
Here is my current list:
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Posted by FelipeRolim on 13 November 2018 - 03:29 PM
The second thing that I consider essential is the hardware, and, in this point, I'll allow myself to extend a little bit more, once it divide in a lot of subjects that need analysis. To facilitate, therefore, I'll separate by subitems:
a) absence of moving parts: the moving parts of a computer consist, basically, of coolers and hard drives. These two things are powered by motors that, apart from being noisy mechanically, are high frequency noise generators, even on a small scale, which reflect indefinitely by the computer. Some people say that, to avoid this problem, external power and a few filters are enough, and the noise won't be audible anymore. I disagree. I've already tried to power my HDD and a cooler with an external power supply, and even with a 5v battery (20000mA power bank). It didn't work. The motors not only generate noise from the cable that powers them, but also emit electromagnetic waves that spread without direction. Since motherboards have very sensitive and microscopic rails, and the processor, memories and internal controllers already work at high frequency, this noise, in the house of MHz and even GHz, generated by the motors, affects the boards and the cables and cause distortions, harmonics, and this reflects in the loss of quality. It's worth remembering here that the computer is the birth of the audio, and that the digital information can be lost and/or distorted until reach the speakers. So, the more care you take with intrusions, the better it will be for the end result, and all of this is perfectly audible. It's also worth remembering that the electric power also makes noise and, especially on the motherboard, this is audible and deserves special care..
Some people maintain that this way of thinking (loss or distortion of computer information) became obsolete with the advent of asynchronous DACs. Well, if it is true, and if the data is buffered previously in the DAC, then, doesn't make sense that devices like ISO Regen, UltraRendu, JCAT USB Isolator and other things bring a positive result. Even a few USB/SPDIF interfaces, such as Mytek, Audiophilleo, SOtM dx-USB HD, M2Tech HiFace would work just as well, instead of the USB connection. What I think is that the purity of the circuit as a whole is, yes, one of the key points of the overall yield. As a solution, I defend the use of solid state storage and passive cooling.
b ) the fewer onboard controllers used, the better. We know that a computer has a lot of onboard controllers, like SATA, RAM memory, VGA, LAN, USB, PCI-Express, processor clock and many others. In my experiences, I noticed that, the smaller the number of controllers in use, the better, clearer and more faithful the audio, and the closer it gets to the analogue, and it gains attributes of microdynamics, decay, spatiality and fidelity of tones and harmonic body. The controllers work at high frequency, and this generates electromagnetic noise that affects everything inside the PC, from the cables to the boards and storage devices.
To allow the use of the controllers in a small number, we must connect to the computer as few elements as possible, and it mean using only USB, LAN and power connections, externally to the computer. The USB connection is only for connecting the PC to the DAC. The network connection is used to connect one PC to another, as well as to control them remotely. There's no need of video connection, mouse/keyboard connections, external hard drives connection. Everything else is completely unnecessary to the audio playback (this is, in my opinion, one of the reasons for why a notebook or a Mac Mini aren't so good as a desktop computer: they have unsurpassed rigidity in hardware set-up). This means that the VGA controller, the integrated USB controller, the fan speed controller (point "a" above), the mouse and keyboard controller and some others, are not in use, at least actively, and only the essential ones remain active for correct operation of the computer and for musical reproduction. From what I've heard, the worst controller for the audio quality is the VGA one. The onboard USB brings a bit of noise, but on a smaller scale, it's something less obvious, but with which I do not want to hang out. This can all be achieved in the absence of a monitor, using a mobile phone or tablet for remote control, and when longer maintenance is required, with remote access via another computer or notebook. Video connection, never.
c) the fact of having hardware is not enough for good performance. You also need to adjust the hardware: in my research, I came across instruction manuals from Computer Audio Design, Computer Audiophile, Fidelizer, and a few others. Each one has its own ideas, and through reading and listening, I have tried to bring together the best of all in a material I have assembled. Several manuals argued that certain features inherent in the motherboard and processor would be harmful to the audio and should therefore be disabled. As in this hobby we cannot believe everything, but also can not doubt anything, I tested what was recommended, one by one. I absolutely disabled everything related to Intel SpeedStep, Turbo Mode, C-States, Virtualization Technology and Hyper-Threading (Audiophile Optimizer recommendatoin). I found improvements in audio quality, but the most vital was Hyper-Threading. This detonated the sound quality. I noticed that this all caused the processor cores to work very unsteadily with energy, now consuming more, and heating more, and now consuming less, for cooling and energy saving. This v-core oscillation, however, brought dirt to the sound, and the deactivation left the frequencies of the cores locked at a fixed value (2GHz) and the sound more fluid and clean. I also deactivated the onboard audio, the SERIAL driver and the USB 2.0 drivers (I only left 3.0 port active) and decreased the video memory to 64MB (in particular, I also deactivated the Audio-PC SATA controllers). I left HPET (High Precision Event Timer) enabled.
Having said that, I ask the license to digress a little to talk about something important: for those who don't know, Hyper-Threading is a feature that processors use to execute multiple threads (threads) in a single core. The practical result of this is that, with it active, Windows "sees" the processor with twice as many cores and processing performance goes up. Therefore, a Core i3 has two physical cores and four virtual cores, as well as some Core i5. Some Core i7 have four physical cores and eight virtual cores, and so on. There are some Intel Xeon with ten physical cores and twenty virtual cores. As a consequence, with Hyper-Threading disabled, a Core i3 processor works only with two cores, as well as some Core i5. This in essence. In addition, disabling the Turbo Mode prevents the processor's frequency from rising beyond the base. It turns out that, because of this sum, performance drops substantially, and then that very good processor with a very high benchmark, isn't so good anymore. The latency of this whole process is very low and more than enough, and the processing is far from itself limit.
I say all this to come to the conclusion that a processor of very high performance isn't essential for high fidelity audio, except for three exceptions that I want to mention in the sequence. To elucidate, let's take as example two processors, a Core i3-6300T and a Core i5-6400T. The first, with Hyper-Threading disabled, will only have two cores working at 3.30GHz. The second, with Hyper-Threading and Turbo Boost disabled, will work with four cores at 2.20GHz. For audio purposes, therefore, what would be the difference of an Intel J5005, which has four physical cores working at 1.50GHz and only 10w of TDP? What would be so significant compared to an Intel N3700 with four physical cores working at 1.60Hz and only 6w of TDP? Only in the 8th generation of processors is the Core i3 now have four physical cores. For more RAM, USB cards, M.2 connections are good, I have no doubt that processors like the J5005 are still the fastest part of the entire computer, and that with everything off, expensive processors with expensive motherboards are underutilized. Despite this, the exceptions are very important.
The first exception I referred to is the Xeon line. These processors have a completely different operation, but more importantly, server motherboards have a much higher, more robust construction with very high precision components, and this greatly benefits the performance of the computer in terms of music reproduction. So, for certain applications, I just find interesting to leave the motherboards with embedded processors to go to the Xeon line. The second exception I mentioned above is the processor cache. Tests carried out by several users are unison in the sense that a large cache brings very significant benefits to the quality of the audio, and that is one of the characteristics of greater responsibility in the approximation of the analog audio. But what is this cache? 6MB? 8MB? Something to conclude, then, that a Core i3-8300, with its 8MB cache, is superior to a J5005, with its 4MB cache? Not at all! I mean something on the order of 25MB, 30MB, up to 60MB cache. Using a 6 or 8MB processor will not even tickle an audio file, which allows me to come to the conclusion that, again, if it's not to mount a PC with an Intel Xeon, it's even better to use a motherboard with an Intel J1900, N3700, N3710, N3160, J4105 or J5005, because they will allow to build a computer with consumption in the order of 20w, as it's what I have here, that consumes something between 20 and 25w, when in reproduction, and this with a SOtM USB card and a linear power supply that I believe is responsible for at least 5w of that total.
The third and more important exception, in my opinion, is related to a Single-PC or Dual-PC setup. When using the Single-PC or Dual-PC configuration, there may be a greater demand for processing, bitstream, latency, and so it may be interesting to have a more powerful computer being used as Control-PC or as Single-PC. Here, using (for now) a computer with an Asrock J1900-ITX motherboard, 16GB of DDR3 RAM, a 1TB SSD, and a dedicated USB card, I could play 192/24 with JPLAY v. 6.2 at 700Hz and 0.01s without interruptions in Single-PC mode, and I can now play 192/24 at 1000Hz also without interruptions with v. 7.0. As it's now the Audio-PC, it's still more than enough to play 192/24, and I think it wouldn't have problems even with DSD256. However, in this case, the Control-PC will import more, so I think that for DSD playback, in both Single-PC mode and Dual-PC mode, at least one computer needs to be powerful (I repeat, not for 192/24) and preferably an Intel Xeon (because I really don't see an advantage in using a Core i5 or i7 if it's to disable various features in the BIOS).
What we can observe, in the end, is that building a dedicated computer, after all these observations, may seem extremely complex, but it isn't. But it's not cheap either. The fact is that for certain applications, it's much smarter to direct the investment to particular components, such as a dedicated USB card and/or a dedicated LAN card, and the return on audio quality will be much more significant than using a Core i3- 8300 compared to a J5005. The issue is not performance, benchmark, but process exclusivity, low heat generation, low latency, low jitter, minimum use of onboard controllers and low power consumption.
To summarize: if you're going to use a Single-PC configuration and will not use an Intel Xeon, buy a motherboard with an embedded processor and direct your investment in the amount of RAM, storage capacity (1TB SSD, at least), linear power supply and dedicated USB board. No need for Core i3, i5 or i7. If you're going to use a Dual-PC setup, the most perfect would be to use both Intel Xeon-based computers, but if that's not possible, I also don't see a need for anything other than an embedded processor, keeping the investment focus on the USB card, on te dedicated network cards and linear power supplies. And, for those who would like to know my opinion, I say: yes, I think the best USB and network cards in existence today are the JCAT FEMTO. Better than SOtM and much better than PPA. Currently, I have a SOtM tx-USBexp, but I intend to buy a JCAT as soon as possible, because I don't consider SOtM a reliable brand in terms of effective troubleshooting, and have literally abandoned the evolution of USB cards. This differentiates JCAT from other brands.
In the next post I'll write about the software.
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Posted by Marcin_gps on 25 October 2018 - 08:05 AM
I need something to do this weekend of rainy, cold weather... I hope you come through for me Marcin!
This weekend you will have to find some other fun activities, but next week will be exciting. I can promise you this
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Posted by Marcin_gps on 25 June 2018 - 08:11 AM
Is there a chance we have Tidal & Qobuz supported by Kazoo with JplayStreamer one day ?
Like we can see it on Kazoo with Linn network player ?
For me it is only the last things Jplay needed to be the best of all
There will be a solution soon. We are getting close to the biggest announcement in the history of JPLAY.
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Posted by Marcin_gps on 15 September 2016 - 02:38 PM
Posted by Thuan on 27 December 2018 - 07:49 PM
1/ DualPC, where both PCs equally optimized and dedicated to music playback. That includes, but not limited to: high performance netword cards and USB card, high quality PSU powering those PCI devices/high quality SSD/CPU, vibration, thermal and EMI control, high grade USB/Ethernet/power cables, low power CPU, quality RAM. Highest cost, best performance, highest learning curve, most satisfying SQ. Compared to singlePC, there's increase sense of vocals floating over and beyond speakers, instruments detached from speakers and separated from vocals and each other, better layering, deeper wider stage, more focused images, tighter more tuneful bass, more effortless and dynamic, sweeter mids, extended highs. The differences vary in magnitude, from one system or album or music genre to another.
2/ SinglePC, similarly configured and optimized as DualPC in #1, but only applied to one PC. Second best SQ, approximately half cost, needs memory stick to use Hibernate feature, simpler to set up, less pain but less fun (than DualPC), lower learning curve, pretty satisfying SQ. Some actually prefer this setup and swear by its superiority. Me, I think matching controlPC to AudioPC as much as possible is key to best SQ, otherwise stay with best possible optimized singlePC and you'll get 95% SQ of a truly good DualPC. Law of diminishing returns.
3/ DualPC, both optimized with AudioPC totally dedicated and controlPC kinda semi-dedicated, being used for other purposes occasionally. This setup appears practically popular, and whether it's a bit compromised or not is debatable. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
4/ DualPC, with AudioPC highly optimized and controlPC so so or much less optimized. This is a no-no in my book; running this setup can actually hurt the otherwise very good SQ. May seem more robust at first (one big benefit of DualPC) but sound purity and natural tonality lessen. Better stay with singlePC until financially ready for another dedicated and/or equally optimized PC.
My subjectivity and bias on DualPC vs AudioPC aside, can't deny or ignore the utmost importance of the music player software. Since its latest 2 month new release, JPLAY Femto (v7) has given most of us who run various setups from singlePC to DualPC a near total package (JPLAY FEMTO renderer/JPLAY femtoServer) that's arguably the best ever sounding player.
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Posted by AudioPhil on 28 January 2017 - 11:07 AM
I wanted to start an overview over all DAC's and DDC's which are working in Core Mode of Windows Server 2016. Please list your equipment and status.
ATTENTION: Do not list a DAC or DDC as not working when you did not install, uninstall and re-install the Driver and use AO 2.20 (Beta) or newer to install KS & MediaPlayer support! All this is only about 2016 Server Core, not 2016 GUI and nothing else as well.
- MUTEC MC-3+ USB SmartClock
- SOtM Audio dX-USB HD
- XMOS F-1 XU208 SPDIF/USB
- B.M.C. PureDAC MKII
- Waversa System DAC3, XMOS
- 4 parallels PCM1704 mono block DAC
- XMOS DIYINHK 768kHz DXIO DDC
- NAD USB 2.0 Driver
- Gustard X20 DAC
- U12 USB Interface
- Musical Fidelity V-Link 192
- Amanero (Hard to install. Ask bodiebill for more details)
- DAC: Audio-GD Master 7
- exD DDC & DAC
- HRT Streamer (Press F8 during boot, ask Anto for more details)
- Musical Paradise MP-D2 DAC (AK4490 XMOS BALANCED DSD)
- Chord 2Qute
- Ciunas DAC
- PS Audio DSD
- Berkeley Audio Design Alpha USB
- Chord Hugo DAC
- Peachtree Audio X1 24/192 USB/SPDIF converter
- Resolution Audio Cantata 2.0
- Auralic Vega
- Mytek Manhattan (V1)
- AQUA La Scala MKII Optologic
- Mytek Stereo192-DSD DAC (fireware)
NOT YET WORKING DEVICES:
- Luxman DA-06
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